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Stewart drums inquiries

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I've been perusing this forum since picking up these Stewart drums locally. It is great to have this information available. I primarily collect old Premiers, but thought I'd venture beyond. It is a 13,16,22 with 14" snare

I am looking to restore this kit and have a few questions:

I have removed the bass drum mount for the tom holder and the original bolt (presumably a wing bolt) is not present. Would this be a metric threaded bolt? Also, is there another part to this assembly that I am missing?

[IMG]http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d174/comover_/IMG_4374.jpg[/IMG]

What would this extra mount be, pictured on the bass drum? It looks factory installed. Cowbell mount?

[IMG]http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d174/comover_/IMG_4385.jpg[/IMG]

The shells are extremely thin with reinforcement hoops and have distorted at various points. Here is a picture of the snare. Look at the lug on the left side. The tension on the lugs obviously distorted the shell. Also, the floor tom probably should have had a reinforcement hoop in the middle, like the bass drum. It is in round at both edges, but in the middle is shaped like a heptagon. That's right, it has 7 lugs! Is this typical, that the shells distort?

[IMG]http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d174/comover_/IMG_4381.jpg[/IMG]

I am looking to date these and from what I can gather the components are a mix of Star and Pearl? I know it is pre-67. Is there any way to narrow down the age.

Lastly, does anyone have a scan of the Stewart bass drum logo? I am going to restore this kit as much as I can.

Thanks very much, in advance,

Comover

Posted on 12 years ago
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Hey hows it going! I restored a Stewart kit last summer and just made the logo on my computer using the font brush script MT size 225. Print out on a transparent sticker. It worked good, not super good but price was right. Also, I took advice from jonnistix and finished the insides of the drums with lacquer. They ened up sounding very good. Also. I have a floor tom in that wrap but it is a zyn-gar drum.

Thank you,

Jeff C

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Thank you!
Jeff C

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Posted on 12 years ago
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Hey Jeff, yeah I saw your previous posts. I too finished the interiors as recommended. Thanks for the input regarding the font.

Posted on 12 years ago
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I had to sell mine, college payment for daughter. It was a beauty, wish I still had it. Good luck to ya!

Jeff C


Thank you!
Jeff C

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Posted on 12 years ago
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Comover! Nice kit, it should shine when your done. Well, there really is no way to nail down much more than an era. This is an early-ish 60s kit. And, due to the snare lugs and strainer, looks to be pre-Star. Stewart, Apollo etc, the very early stencils that St. Louis Music Supply owned the name rights to seemingly were made by Pearl for at least 2 years before they signed on with Star. The strainer is the telling feature. Star never made a lug that looked quite like this, nor did they make that strainer.

About 64-65, SLMS took their business to Star because they liked the willingness of Star to go above and beyond and design parts more to their liking, i.e. dead on copies of Slingerland. If you place a Star SK and a Slingerland SK lug, tom, snare or floor tom, sideXside, you'd be hard pressed to make the correct call as to which is which, purely based on dimensions. Now the finished chrome work is the only telling feature on these lugs, and if you were careful in choosing, you could come up with some of the Star parts that would be hard to tell the difference.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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Hey comover, thanks for posting the pics!

I wanted to take a shot at answering a few of your questions from the top of the thread.

1. I don't think that the screw for your tom mount would be metric. It's entirely possible, but I think that Pearl, even in the early days, always used standard sized t-rods, so I sort of doubt that the other screws would be metric. Could be wrong, though - if anyone knows better, please correct me.

2. That does look like a factory cymbal mount on your bass drum. I think it would have originally come with a long L type cymbal arm.

I have a WMP Stewart snare that is nearly identical to yours that was discussed in another thread. Check it out:

http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=16677

Again, thanks for posting. Hope this helps!

Posted on 12 years ago
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Have a couple of Stewart kits I'm working on myself - of course none of them came with a logo head, so I actually just drew up a vector version using one of the pics on this forum as reference. Not perfect, (and I think a different font version than yours - Star version) but here's a jpeg. How you'd get it from here to the drum head is the question... Good luck with the project.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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Thanks for all the replies and the logo. I'll see if I can track down a wing bolt for the bass drum mount.

Cheers

Posted on 12 years ago
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Your cymbal mount should look something like this when complete. Mikey may have the correct part(s), but I doubt he'll have an arm. Those come and go like rain water. You'll have to get on his waiting list for one of those.

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Posted on 12 years ago
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And good luck finding a wing bolt. I don't know about the rest of you, but wing bolts are virtually non-existent at any hardware stores in my neck of the woods. Even went to a fastener specialty place and had no luck, (did get some t-rod sized washers though... and got rear ended in the parking lot). Wondering if anyone else out there has any suggestions for finding wing bolts...?

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Posted on 12 years ago
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