That's the history.

If you want more information on details about an A. Zildjian & Cie cymbal, contact member "Jaye". The trademark photo I provided earlier came from his cymbal, which happens to be the last one of these I saw on eBay.

Thank you again&again!!

I have one more question about Aram Zildjian.

After he came to US in order to teach Avedis Ⅲ about the secret formula and how to make cymbal in 1928, did he went back to Istanbul again? I couldn't find the year of his birth and death.

As Avedis Ⅲ had learned the art of cymbal-making for a year from Aram, some of First Stamp were possibly made by Aram? I checked "The Cymbal Book" and 'World's Leading Cymbal Maker'('1949), but I couldn't get it.

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Aram never returned to Istanbul again. He couldn't because he was considered a criminal there and was a wanted man. And so he after teaching his nephew Avedis III the secret process, and about cymbal making in general, he returned in to Bucharest to live out the rest of his days there, peacfully passing away sometime in the 1940's. But for further details on this remarkable man Aram Zildjian, you can read all about him here in this obscure and very rare document about his life entitled, "The Life and Times of Aram Zildjian":

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Thanks for your input!! I got one mystery.

As an Armenian, Aram had committed racialism during Istanbul days after he returned from Bucharest to there?

Unfortunately, I cannot read the rare document...

Right. It was racialism, radicalism, or some kind of -ism like that.

And after Aram died Mikial took what was left of the B-20 that was still molten and smouldering in the cauldron, and with a mold that he had created of a larger than life full body likeness of the old man, added his mortal remains to the mixture, and it was cast. This created an effigy that not only served to immortalize him, but also to cremate his remains and serve as his permanent mausoleum; all three being accomplished simultaneously! And this monument can be seen in the town square of central Bucharest to this very day…..a fitting final tribute to a great cymbal-maker.

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Great alchemist history! Immortalization!

So, you mean Aram returned to Bucharest and he had continued to make cymbals? After his death, Mikhali inherited those B20 in Bucharest?

All I know is that the A. Zildjian & Cie.'s were still being sold as late as the 1940's, so whether or not Aram was still alive and taking care of this, or if he was actually dead by this time and Mikial was selling off his old inventory I don't really know.

Thanks Drumaholic as always!!