Looks like a Premier kit someone refinished & pulled the badges or just pulled the badges. I'll give you $105.99 for them just because I liked you from the start & I'm a caring kinda guy!...yep, that's me...caring!...oh yeah, generous also! That's me in a nutshell...caring & generous! Yes Sir

Just playing!...one hell of a find! Congrats! Bowing

Hello,

To me it looks like an early 60s (not later) Premier's drumkit.

Reasons for it: the type of the lugs, and the T-rods (well: the 'half T'-rods) at the bass drum.

Only the cymbals themselves are the money worth (or even more ...).

The holes at the 14" cymbal may have been drilled to place some sizzle rivets in it.

Nice find, I guess the shells have been rewrapped. If you like, you can make it shiny again with another wrap to be placed onto the shells as e.g. WMP (white marine pearl).

Ralf

Mid 50's to mid 60's Premier, Premier changed to standard sizes in 1966ish. The throw looks like a retro-fit, better pictures would help. Looks like someone cut the wrap to get heads to fit. Those are Birch shells with Beech re-rings.

REMO does still make heads, here's what you need to order:

BA-0110-PR- Ambassador, Coated, 10"

BA-0112-PR- Ambassador, Coated, 12"

BA-0116-PR- Ambassador, Coated, 16"

BR-1120-PR- Ambassador, Coated, 20"

PS-0310-PR- Pinstripe, Clear, 10"

PS-0312-PR- Pinstripe, Clear, 12"

PS-0316-PR- Pinstripe, Clear, 16"

PS-1320-PR- Pinstripe, Clear, 20"

BE-0110-PR- Emperor, Coated, 10"

BE-0112-PR- Emperor, Coated, 12"

BE-0116-PR- Emperor, Coated, 16"

BE-0320-PR- Emperor, Coated, 20"

Call REMO FIRST for the 22", they'll tell you your options, not every head type is available.

PowerStroke 3 coated BD Head 22" (This is what's on my BD)

CM-0719-P3-21625 (21 5/8")

ps: Nice kit! Keep that registration card!

Difficult to tell from a photo but they looks like they have been sprayed. The grommet on the top is the same colour as the wrap is it not?

Virgin bass drums (no holes) are sought after these days. I'd consider not changing that.

I should say rewrapped and sprayed.

Rewrapped (badly) or cut, is my guess on the kick.

The toms are in far better shape, visually. The grommets

are not black. They're all silver/tarnished/rusty.

Virgin kick is a plus? Cool. It kind of a PITA using

a old snare stand to the tom.

Great info on the 22" head. Thanks. I found the other

heads but that one was looking to be a money pig.

I appreciate all the input.

As for the rivets in the zildjian...the point is what?

Rivets add a sizzle sound to the cymbal. Some people like sound of sizzle rivets, some don't. I have seen them on everything, but usually they're on rides, swishes and a few chinas.

I've seen a lot of poorly drilled cymbals that were sacrificed for rivets.

It sounds like the bass drum is exactly the same size as the pre 1964 Trixon medium size bass drum ,which is 550mm( 1/4" over 21 5/16----maybe check it for the metric measurement) I had a bunch of heads made up for those older Trixon drums about a year ago, so I have one if you want but I had to pay for the measuring and setting up to do the run and it wasn't that big a run so they came out as expensive.What I did find out was, that Remo puts a custom code on custom heads, so despite the fact that my heads are 21 3/4" and fit a 550mm drum, Remo won't take that code and use it to make heads for instance ,for you. They will need all the particulars for your drum before they will start and then they will tool up for you. Now because it is a Premier and there are probably a lot more of them around than the older Trixons, they may be a little more forgiving on that rule and already have those particulars, or even stock. I dealt personally with a very great guy by the name of, Chris Wakelin and he went around some barriers, that the system at Remo seemed oblivious to and were causing roadblocks. You still have to order the heads through a Remo head dealer and then distributor. For me, it was a cumbersome situation. If it ends up being so, for you and you have to start up a custom run----I could order a head for you , through Chris in cooperation with your dealer of choice from my codes------- if it turns out that the drum is close enough in size. Some of the films that Remo uses do not come in large sizes, so with the larger heads there are fewer choices.

Super Gonz:

I went thru the exact same thing when I bought a set of 1957 Sonors.

All drums were Pre-international sizes.

Getting the PI heads is a VERY expensive proposition. There IS a workaround tho...

Lets take the bass drum.

1) Get a pair of 22 inch hoops and a standard 22 inch head

2) Put rubber washers under all the Bass Drum lugs.

This should give you enough "Splay" to use the 22 inch head on the drum.

The washers extend the lugs out so that the 22 inch hoops line up right.

You may have to use 2 or 3 washers to get the size right but it can be done.

You can do the same thing with the other drums, if the snare/tom is 12.5 inches, get a pair of 13 inch hoops cheaply on EBAY, insert the washers, and use a standard 13 inch head.

believe it or not, this is what hundereds of drummers did in the 1970s, when all those Pre-International sets were available used for very low prices. Its an old trick, but it works most of the time. I cant say for sure it will work on your Premiers, but heck its worth a try before you spend $1000 on Pre-Int heads!!