I feel like a youngster at 59. Started lessons at 7. Have always been fortunate to make my living doing what I love. No "day jobs" except a full boat of teaching drums.

Roger sling,

Thanks for your most excellent differentiation between a sphere and a cylinder. I stand corrected.

The point I was making has to do with circular geometrical forms in general such as the sphere and cylinder and not the ellipse for example. if you take a drum (cylinder) and rotate it in any direction while remaining exactly on that central point a sphere is created from that point.

I think you missed my essential point, being that the larger universe (planets, stars, moons) is made up of bodies held together by gravity. The sphere being the principal and fundamental shape that gravity creates when there is sufficient mass and motion. A drum, being a cylinder does make an artificial sphere when it is rotated exactly around the mid point of the cylinder. It is the "circular" (spherical) form, so prominent in nature that allows the wonderful sounds which resonate within us. The circle, or sphere is the principle geometric form in creation. So drums and drumming represent a fundamental part of nature, that being sound created from circles.

Cheers!

-kellyj

I wasn't so much correcting you as I was cerebral scatting on top of what you layed down. I was building on the concept of "shape represents the artist". You scatted on the sphere very nicely. I picked up the groove and went with the cylinder - the drummer surrounds the group and provides the two-dimensional line segment that they are a third dimension, which is perfect in measure and space. That is, the drummer gives the group that added dimension. Without the drummer, it's just two-dimensional sound. Icky.

I also added that said drummer surrounds the group with perfect straight lines that never waver - that's the solid uncompromising groove we provide.

So, that was fun for me. That's all.

RogerSling,

I suppose my age is showing (one point of this thread!)...We were heading off in two scatological directions at the same time, instigated by my poorly postulated spherical metaphor, nicely scatted upon by you. Thanks!

I love your geometrical image of the drummer and his extended groove partners as encompassing the cylinder. A living, "round" treat for sure...flower

-cheers once again,

-kellyj

Not to get completely off topic here but I dig where you were going. I sometimes feel "oneness" with the universe when I'm drumming.

Playing what may be the oldest instrument, percussion of some sort, something which was used for communication, celebration, ceremony, it has a tribal feel, and I think no matter how old you are, or your skill level you can join the conversation.

well well you'd never guess that the oldies but goodies are the minority here surprise surprise i got interested in vintage drums when i stated playing on my uncles kit back in the middle 50s and acquired my 1rst used set a early 60s pearl than in 67 my first new kit holly wood luddys pink champagne the story is in some of my early threads and have owned numerous vintage sets lost or sold or were stolen over time now i have a great collection and i'm found of my museum quality kits and my snare collection of historic Ludwig's is sweet but im still have trouble tweaking that restored downbeat snare,i'm 60 going on 18

my question is how high do i have to tune that down beat snare to get it right? no wonder they stopped making it and sold the kits with a supra.

Real vintage drummers have to be at least 20, right?

I turned 61 this last august I have never been a collector I have always played vintage drums for one reason they are the best drums ever made bar none, the junk they pass off today as great drums is appalling.. the same configuration is seen everywhere two toms on a stand to the drummers left now who came up with that .. and now hanging drums yuck I would destroy a set of them if I played them .. nope I like good old Rogers swivo gear and Ludwig gear never owned any other brands I know sling's are great but i have no experience with them ... I am old school for a reason it works and if it ain't broke don't try to fix it...

P.S. did I mention I loath double pedals?...... :)

I turned 20 last summer and I love vintage drums!!

I tend to colect them and learn as much as possible about them ;)

I'm 59 (going on 28) and I was told I'm the oldest metal drummer in IL, (LOL) I would consider myself more of an impulse obcessed buyer, rather than a collector, in the last 6 months I have bought 55 cymbals, and sold nearly half of them, I own a 69 MWP Sling set, which most of you have seen in the gallery, play a 72 Fibes, and practice on a roland and 80's pearl set, as long as I can breath, I'll keep playing, next gig the pretigious Elbo room Chicago.

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