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Can you identify this Sonor set?

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Hello everyone,,

I have huge problem to identify this Sonor set. It seems to be from late 50s but I’m not sure. I would be glad for help. How much it could be worth?

Photos u can find here -> http://pokazywarka.pl/richba

Greetings

Posted on 13 years ago
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Hi Dominik,

This looks to be a late 1950s early teardrop kit in the New Beat series. As far as I am aware, New Beats were the first Sonor drums to be international size (i.e. inch, not metric, heads).

From your pictures it looks like you've got two bass drums, but no floor tom.

I wouldn't think the value is too exceptional for these drums, but do inquire over at www.sonormuseum.com/forum for some expert advice. You should also be able to id your drums by comparing them to the catalogs over at www.sonormuseum.com.

The shells of your drums are probably very thin 3-ply beech with reinforcement rings.

/Magnus

Posted on 13 years ago
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Yes it looks like The New beat K 170 Chicago with 13"snare,6 lugs on bass drum

http://www.sonormuseum.com/1950s/The_new_Beat_Serie.pdf

Selling cymbals Made in Turkey

http://turkishcymbalserbia.weebly.com/
Posted on 13 years ago
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It`s a fifties badge,...Am I seeing two bass drum ?? That badge didn`t run long !!

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 13 years ago
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Dominik:

This looks like a 1957/1958 "Melodie" set from Sonor. I have a 1958 "Melodie" set in the same WMP color, and this looks very, very, VERY close to mine. The only difference I see is the bass drum...mine is single lug in the center. And YES, your set is Definetly "International" size heads which are hard to find today. There are ways around that, but thats for another post.

Nice set, but no floor tom and a second bass drum? Thats odd, but cool.

Also......the value of your set could be HUGE to a Sonor collector. There are not many of the 1950s Sonor drums left. Many were traded into dealers toward new sets because they had International size shells, and the dealers did not want to have to carry heads of both sizes in their inventory. They wanted to phase "International" out. Once traded in, the dealers then stripped the shells for the metal parts, and destroyed the shells.

My own "Melodie" set is in sorry condition and collectors still want it. My project for early next year is to restore it from the ground up. Same color as yours!!

Posted on 13 years ago
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The bidding war for that set goes quickly, a Sonor collector will throw out a rediculous bid for a swift catch or it wont get seen and drag on !!

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 13 years ago
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There is a forum member on the sonormuseum forums (hemelsoet),...He is an avid vintage Sonor collector and will know all about what you have, plus I know he will have the correct hardware stands ect.ect., ...but you`ll have to twist his arm to get him to sell if you`re interested in the correct hardware !!

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 13 years ago
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Is the other Bass missing it`s hoop ?

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It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 13 years ago
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From Retrosonic

Dominik:... your set is Definetly "International" size heads which are hard to find today. There are ways around that, but thats for another post. ...Many were traded into dealers toward new sets because they had International size shells, which wasnt all that easy to find heads for, even in the 1960s. ...

Just to set things straight. International sizes are what we use today, with heads and shells measured in inches, not centimeters. The older, European (?) standard is called metric. Metric heads are hard to find.

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As regards the value of a kit like this, I beg to differ from the opinion that it could be huge. I would honestly be surprised if even a die-hard Sonor collector would pay more than 3-400 Euros for a kit like this. Of course I could be wrong, but I am a Sonor player myself and have a couple of Phonic kits and one early teardrop kit from app. 1960.

I've seen extremely beautiful old 1950s Sonor kits offered on eBay for 1000-1500 USD.

/Magnus

Posted on 13 years ago
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Thank you Gens for your answers. I need to think about this set, I want to potentially buy it not sell. Let see. But in the mean time I found next vintage Sonor set - >

http://pokazywarka.pl/680mp3/

It has some hardware and some cymbals naming DELRUM 2 on board. Is it better than previous? For sure is complete, it required only new heads.

The price is basically the same for both - > around 350 US dollars.

Posted on 13 years ago
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