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There is a mid-70's Super 10 shell with lugs on 3bay with a few extra holes.I have all the missing parts from a previously disassembled project.Would the end result be equivalent to a Supra sound?Ringier,since it's steel,not alloy?I already own afew steel snares and don't need another with an identical sound.

Posted on 13 years ago
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There is a mid-70's Super 10 shell with lugs on 3bay with a few extra holes.I have all the missing parts from a previously disassembled project.Would the end result be equivalent to a Supra sound?Ringier,since it's steel,not alloy?I already own afew steel snares and don't need another with an identical sound.

Can't answer that, but I can tell you, using a Fyberskin has significantly reduced or eliminated the ringiness of COS drums, and I hate a ringy drum.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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I love a SuperTen! One of the real sleepers and best kept secrets in vintage snare drums! While it did arrive fairly late, it was Rogers answer to the Supraphonic. The SuperTen can be both LOUD and sensitive. Just depends on your selection of heads, sticks and playing technique. Really a great all-purpose snare drum. I've got one of the first-year, 1973, editions with the SuperTen logo badge. My first choice for heads were either Remo coated Ambassador or an Evans coated G1. I had to use the original muffler to just touch the head and remove that incredible ring! Of course, it is that ring that give this drum fantastic projection in a live situation. Like Jonni said, a Remo Fyberskin will most likely tame this drum. I've also used an Evans Genera Dry with great results. This head use small "dry-venting" holes around the periphery, in addition to the inner ring that floats underneath the head. It's an ideal head for COS snare drums! Best of luck if you get the SuperTen. They're great drums!

Posted on 13 years ago
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I have four Superten 5x14 drums.

I dont like drums with extra holes. Now, granted, pre 64 Clockface throwoffs had some issues with the backing plate, however there is no more dependable, long lasting, and fully functioning throwoff than the Rogers Swivomatic. No matter if its a D stamp from a Dynasonic, or a "no stamp" from a Powertone in the 60s, or the 70s universal version of the Swivomatic, or even the 80-84 version with the rivet top knob.............. you cant have a better throw off on a drum. That some people manage to break these is, frankly, unbelievable. That some people will replace it with a POS aftermarket and drill holes in the shell is a statement of ........." kick me, I am stupid. " Just my thoughts on extra holes on a Rogers 61-84 snare drum. Damn Stupid.

There is absolutely NO DIFFERENCE in an OVAL Badge Superten and a BIG R Badge Superten...... it is the exact same shell. Big R 5x14 Superten drums were built on oval badge shell stock well into 1983. The factory closed in July 84. People who think there is a functional shell difference really have no clue, it is the same shell. Not a well known fact at this point in time....but one I have proven by observation of Rogers Supertens manufactured from 1973-80. Catalog pics as late as 83 show the 5x14 Superten Big R/Oval Badge location. One of my Supertens is 0973, which is a 1973 number. I have two that are five digit Big R drums from early to mid 1976 and one that is a 1980 "no serial" Big R Badge.

As for heads..... I have Coated Ambassadors on two of them. An Evans G1, and a Powerstroke PS3 on the fourth. I have used an Evans J1 Etched also, but if you arent using it for brushwork.......it is super loud with sticks. The PS3 chokes the drum, in my opinion. And a Fiberskyn on this drum is senseless. Buy a box if you want it to sound like a box. Just my opinion.

This is a lively drum, it crushes a supra. They are like comparing apples to oranges. It is louder, projects more, and can be pounded to hell and back and still have room for more volume. It is articulate out to the edge and if you just open it up and let it sing....Guitarists have been known to take up knitting. It can be controlled, but you dont need dampening heads. This is a sensitive drum, and will respond to the lightest touch. It takes a lot of attention and finesse to play one of these with sticks in a small venue.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Well,I missed bidding because of 3 other auctions I had bid on,but now that I know,I'll keep an eye out.I have all the parts because a local N.E.music store tried to make a 4"snare out of Rogers components,and it did NOT work.The rods were cut down and the throw was too tall.I now have a COW Keller shell with way too many holes in it.....

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