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Premier bass drum lugs/rods?

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I am in the process of restoring a late 60s/early 70s Premier 22x14 bass drum. I did not take careful inventory of the hardware as I was removing it, and now I find that there appear to be some tension rods that are too short when I am trying to but the hoops and heads back on.

Are there different length rods for the beater side as opposed to the resonant side of the drum?

Some rods seem to be 1/8" to short.

Any tips appreciated.

Lee

Posted on 13 years ago
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It could be the swivel nuts...

Premier used different length swivel nuts on bass drum lugs than they did on the toms or snare. Make certain you have the correct length swivel nuts in your bass drum lugs.

Was the drum assembled when you got it?

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Yes, the drum was assembled. I literally removed the hardware, stripped the old wrap, rewrapped it and put the hard ware back on. But there is one rod on the front head and three on the back that will not reach the lug or, more acurately, the nut inside the lug.

Lee

Posted on 13 years ago
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From Lee H

Yes, the drum was assembled. I literally removed the hardware, stripped the old wrap, rewrapped it and put the hard ware back on. But there is one rod on the front head and three on the back that will not reach the lug or, more acurately, the nut inside the lug.Lee

Lee, I would check the inserts on the lugs in question make sure the insert in all the way in with the piece that goes around the insert being tight to the insert and fits into the lug groove tight...Mikey

Posted on 13 years ago
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Ya, I will try that Mikey777. There are actually two different length tensioners with the kit (4.25" and 4.5"), maybe from a prior restore. I suppose there might be some alchemy to where the shorter ones fit in the sequence of reattaching the hoops, but I think I'm just going to try to get my hands on some of the longer rods.

Lee

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From Lee H

Ya, I will try that Mikey777. There are actually two different length tensioners with the kit (4.25" and 4.5"), maybe from a prior restore. I suppose there might be some alchemy to where the shorter ones fit in the sequence of reattaching the hoops, but I think I'm just going to try to get my hands on some of the longer rods.Lee

The T-rod on the right looks to be the shorter one right? Also the one on the right is from the 60's..The one on the left is 70's..Mikey

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Ya, that's right. The kick is clearly a bit of a Frankenstein. But it sounds sweet.

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Lee

Posted on 13 years ago
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Wondering if you tighten the longer rods a bit and seat the head down, will the shorter rods start tightening? Have seen this on some tom setups when the original tension rods were not used.

Posted on 13 years ago
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From amosguy

Wondering if you tighten the longer rods a bit and seat the head down, will the shorter rods start tightening? Have seen this on some tom setups when the original tension rods were not used.

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I'm sure you guys are right, it's a question of starting in the right place and pulling to hoop close enough to allow the shorter rods to thread. B/c some of the shorter rods work on some of the lugs.

L

Posted on 13 years ago
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