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I recently purchased a Ludwig supraphonic drum shell with no parts except the rims. After getting it home I found out that the shell was made for the super-sensitive throw off system.

I was hoping I could use a p86 instead of buying the expensive super-sensitive set up.

I bought the shell for playing and not to recondition or re-sell, so I don't care about keeping it original, I just want the sound.

Does anyone know if the p85/p86 throw off will fit on this shell?

(model 410 from 1971)

Thanking you in advance.....

Dan Jones

Posted on 13 years ago
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Nope. Holes won't match up. The SS is an entirely different mechanism from from a P-83 and none of the holes match. A lot of guys have re-drilled those shells so they could add the simpler strainer. Your drum, your call.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Thanks for the info....

Posted on 13 years ago
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Do yourself a favor...dont drill the shell. Take a small square of wood, paint it silver to match the shell, and make an adaptor plate so that you can use the new strainer with the shell. This way, when you eventually find the right strainer, OR someone makes a replacent that uses the same holes, the drum will still be original. Also, if you ever sell it, you'll be very, very glad you didnt redrill it.

Posted on 13 years ago
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I agree with Retrosonic, except I would use a piece of 1/8"X1" aluminum bar stock available at Lowes or Home Depot for the adapter.

Gary G.
1963 Ludwig Gold Sparkle Hollywood Kit
Ludwig Collection: 10 Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Customized Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Vintage Foot Pedals, 1 Single Value Bugle
Posted on 13 years ago
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From GG Vintage

I agree with Retrosonic, except I would use a piece of 1/8"X1" aluminum bar stock available at Lowes or Home Depot for the adapter.

I saw a retro-fit some guy did using a piece of aluminum as you recommended. It not only worked well, it looked good too! Much better approach than re-drilling the shell. I wish I could remember where I saw that thread, it had some good illustrations of how he created the adapter. Might even be at another forum. (?)

John

Too many great drums to list here!

http://www.walbergandauge.com/VintageVenue.htm
Posted on 13 years ago
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dan r. jones: PM just sent regarding your super-sensitive. Thanks!

Posted on 13 years ago
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From Purdie Shuffle

I saw a retro-fit some guy did using a piece of aluminum as you recommended. It not only worked well, it looked good too! Much better approach than re-drilling the shell. I wish I could remember where I saw that thread, it had some good illustrations of how he created the adapter. Might even be at another forum. (?)John

Here's the one I did for a 1930s 4X14 Pioneer. Of course, it's a little more difficult on a Supra or Acro, anything with a center rib.

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Gary G.
1963 Ludwig Gold Sparkle Hollywood Kit
Ludwig Collection: 10 Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Customized Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Vintage Foot Pedals, 1 Single Value Bugle
Posted on 13 years ago
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good advice here.

i recently rehabbed my early 20's nob ludwig snare with an adapter. got tired of messing with th p338. i made a small aluminum adapter and mounted a

p86 millenium strainer. it works great and i think it goes nicely with the drum.

mike

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Mike,

Any chance of a more side angle view so we can see the configuration of your adapter? Drum looks great with the P86!

Gary G.
1963 Ludwig Gold Sparkle Hollywood Kit
Ludwig Collection: 10 Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Customized Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Vintage Foot Pedals, 1 Single Value Bugle
Posted on 13 years ago
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