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Hi All,

I'm 62. Playing long 4 hour gigs can take a toll on my hands these days. I play traditional grip... unless it's a really long gig. To give my left hand a break I will switch my grip from traditional to matched (and back again when I want to) with a quick flip of the stick. It comes in handy. I get to use different muscle groups to manipulate the stick and when I flip back to trad grip, my hand actually feels a bit rested!

The move is accomplished using a cool little 'quick flip' that pops the stick into the new position. To go back to trad grip, simply reverse the sequence of moves. It should be executed smoothly, using the weight and the momentum of the moving stick to snap it back and forth from one grip to the other. Trust me, one day it'll come in handy. Take the time to learn it if you're a trad grip player like me. It can provide some much needed relief when your hand is starting to get tired. You'll be able go longer with less 'effort.'

I made a little pictorial tutorial on how to execute the move. There are 6 illustrations, so I have to spread them over two posts. See post below for the second half of the sequence.

Enjoy, hope some guys find this helpful. Just one more little trick to put into your bag that you can pull out if you ever need it.

John

PS - photo 2 is an error. When I snapped the shot, I put the stick between the wrong fingers! It should be between the second and third/ring fingers. Not forefinger and second finger. Sorry.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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... the rest.

John

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Just wondering. Do you have a tip for when my old tuchas (sp? )needs a rest?

B

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Posted on 13 years ago
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From AZBill

Just wondering. Do you have a tip for when my old tuchas (sp? )needs a rest?B

LOL - Yes! Roc & Soc! That damn throne has saved my life. I'm built like Hank Hill - no a$$ cheeks... so if a seat isn't soft and supportive, playing for long periods literally becomes a pain-in-the-a$$. The Roc & Soc bicycle seat style is well-cushioned, provides rock solid support so it's easy to pivot and the cut-aways in the front allow free leg movement without cutting off circulation to the legs. I plant my butt on that thing, find my center of balance and it's off to the races.

As you can see, I took your note seriously. It's no fun playing a long gig when you're in physical discomfort or out and out pain. I 'hear you' loud and clear. Look into bicycle-seat style drummers thrones... your tuchas will thank you! lol

If anybody has any tips, recommendations or little tricks that working drummers can use to make life a little easier, please post them here.

Example: I have a way of packing my drums that makes load-in and load-out at gigs go a little smoother for me. I pack/stack the cart in the precise order I set up the kit. Shaves a couple of minutes off of set-up time because I don't have to move things out of the way to get to what I need first.

Little things/tips like that are worth their weight in gold when all you want to do is save a little precious time. Got useful tips working drummers can use? Post away...

John

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LOL

That just about clean's it up on here what you said .GOOD point

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From Purdie Shuffle

If anybody has any tips, recommendations or little tricks that working drummers can use to make life a little easier, please post them here. Example: I have a way of packing my drums that makes load-in and load-out at gigs go a little smoother for me. I pack/stack the cart in the precise order I set up the kit. Shaves a couple of minutes off of set-up time because I don't have to move things out of the way to get to what I need first. John

Ha, haaa! Joihn, I love it. I was only kidding about, well, maybe only half jesting, regarding my posterior, but will look into that seat. Been using a circa 1981 Tama seat since it was new and have only had a few encounters with over-time discomfort. Good info. Thanks.

I took particular interest in your "Tips" example. I can totally relate to getting your gear packed and moved, down to its most efficient. Always had a particular sequence of events. This way you're not tripping over stuff in your way during setup. I remember people always asking to help carry your stuff in/out. I appreciated the offers, but had ingress/egress down to a science. I had no fancy cases for anything. All my junk went in and out in 5 easy trips and was laid out to go together quickly. (I somehow don't miss doing that.)

Good point.

B

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Wow. Cool. I'll have to keep this in mind.

Thank you!

Sysl krysu nenahradi!

-196?-72 6ply White Oyster Amati
-1960s 3ply Red Sparkle Amati
- Zildjian, Paiste, Zyn, Istanbul

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> I can totally relate to getting your gear packed and moved, down to its most efficient.

I'm playing with a local, (PA) Blues band. One of our regular gigs is at a local hotel bar/lounge. We always play an evening set 7 to 10pm followed by a 3-piece jazz combo that works from 10pm to 12/1am. I have to break down quickly and efficiently because as I'm doing so, the other guy is starting to load-in. We have always coordinated our movements well and sometimes we laugh because it's almost like a dance we do on that small stage. Any confusion or hesitation on either of our parts, and the machine would break down and change-over would be a bloody mess and a royal pain in the arse. It's only once a month so it isn't a chore for me. I do enjoy playing out these days because the gigs are well spaced out, every few weeks or so. By the time one comes up in the rotation, I'm chomping at the bit to play. D' Drummer

Look into the Roc & Socs, great thrones.

John

Too many great drums to list here!

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since you guys are talking about thrones, heres what happened to me a few years ago. I had a standard premier stool, the one with a red seat, it was about 20 years old. A friend of mine had the same stool only a few years younger, about 15 years. His stool collapsed while siting on it and the main rod went straight up his bum. he was in hospital for a few months. I heard about the incident and sent my best wishes to him. about 6 months later I was on a gig and heard a slight cracking sound from my stool, I put both feet on the stage just as the post broke through the seat. I had a lucky escape that night, so if you hear any strange noises or feel your seat falling get off it quick

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From blackd

since you guys are talking about thrones, heres what happened to me a few years ago. I had a standard premier stool, the one with a red seat, it was about 20 years old. A friend of mine had the same stool only a few years younger, about 15 years. His stool collapsed while siting on it and the main rod went straight up his bum. he was in hospital for a few months. I heard about the incident and sent my best wishes to him. about 6 months later I was on a gig and heard a slight cracking sound from my stool, I put both feet on the stage just as the post broke through the seat. I had a lucky escape that night, so if you hear any strange noises or feel your seat falling get off it quick

Oy! Just, Oy!! My old Tama seat is like Military-Grade. Big, cast aluminum cross bracket underneath. Ugh. Who said drumming wasn't dangerous?

Thank You?

B

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Posted on 13 years ago
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