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Need help with correct hardware

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I'm in need of some information on what to look for in the correct cymbal/stands and other hardware that would make my '78 Stainless set complete. (pic in previous post)

Also I'm finding that the tom mounts are slipping, any suggestions?

Posted on 13 years ago
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At the top of the page, under partner sites,...go to vintage drum guides, click on Ludwig, go to 1980 catalogue and you`ll find the QuadraPlus listed with all it`s accessories !! Looks to be Hercules !!

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 13 years ago
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From OddBall

At the top of the page, under partner sites,...go to vintage drum guides, click on Ludwig, go to 1980 catalogue and you`ll find the QuadraPlus listed with all it`s accessories !! Looks to be Hercules !!

Hercules? could you explain? tried to Google with no results...

Posted on 13 years ago
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Here`s a pic of my Hercules B/O cymbal stand that`s the same as your kit should have, (I believe) !!

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It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

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Posted on 13 years ago
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When I asked about it here, the guys "in the know" told me they were made from 78/84 and are avalible online all the time. The base of the stands are the same, the boom arms have different types depending on what you`re holding !! The thick boom arm needs the large clamp on top of the base to close and hold tight properly, the small diameter boom arm needs the smaller clamp on top to hold tight. The tops are all interchangeable with the bases !! They can be identified by the large black plastic turnning keys.

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 13 years ago
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From OddBall

Here`s a pic of my Hercules B/O cymbal stand that`s the same as your kit should have, (I believe) !!

ahh....thank you sir!

How about Hi Hat?

Bass pedal?

Are tom mounts available out there? repairable?

A couple are slipping.

(As you can probably tell I'm a greenhorn, actually a guitar player..lol)

Posted on 13 years ago
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Your Hi Hat should be model #1131 (common)

Your Pedal should be the 201 Speed King (common)

Your tom tom holders should be Double Clip-Lok type. The ones` in your photo seem to be the kind on the SS Pro Beat drum series from 1980 !! Maybe why yours are slipping, they`re similar but different model #s

I got this info from the catalogues and there are far more knowlegable guys on this site about Ludwig drums than I. Maybe one will chime in and contribute !!

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Posted on 13 years ago
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From OddBall

Your Hi Hat should be model #1131 (common)Your Pedal should be the 201 Speed King (common) Your tom tom holders should be Double Clip-Lok type. The ones` in your photo seem to be the kind on the SS Pro Beat drum series from 1980 !! Maybe why yours are slipping, they`re similar but different model #s I got this info from the catalogues and there are far more knowlegable guys on this site about Ludwig drums than I. Maybe one will chime in and contribute !!

I do believe the holders are all original with the set, maybe they just sold them with the wrong ones?

Posted on 13 years ago
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[quote=Your Hi Hat should be model #1131 (common)

Your Pedal should be the 201 Speed King (common)quote]

Just checking to see if you fairly sure the pedal should be a 201 and not a 205? as I have a chance to buy a '78 Ghost 205.

Posted on 13 years ago
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This is where it gets tricky, depending. Anal Vintage Drum collectors will want it the way the Cat. would sell it, in the cat. it comes with a Speed King, I however see nothing wrong with have`n a Ghost pedal, it`s an accessory and just like stands and HH,..as long as it`s Company and period correct most guys take it as complete and original !!

Your tom holders are not the kind in the Catalogue, that matters !! Yours are the ones on the Pro Beat series, not the Clip Lok ones in the Quadra-Plus Pic. in the Cat.

Ludwigdude has posted recently and I was hope`n he saw this topic. With LudwigCo. you can order to fit your needs and sometimes you can`t,..cuz they stopped production,...Both these drums appear in the same Cat. so it could be that they were ordered that way. ..But yours are slipping and that`s not good.

Again, someone in the know could help you better than I. I going by Cat. and these guys go by experience !! I do SONOR !!

It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
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