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Floor tom Amati or what?

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I bought this floor a long time ago. It was just for practice in my room, so I never change head. I even don’t know if it is a standard size. I will measure it (it’s not in my house), and take a picture of inside so you could tell me something more about wood…

The rods have a little bigger head than the standard (like Amati).

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Posted on 13 years ago
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i think this is a fairly recent production Tacton. the drums morphed through a number of different wood types before and by the late 80's at least some of the drums were being made from laminated pressed cardboard. amazing, really.

Posted on 13 years ago
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From calfskin

i think this is a fairly recent production Tacton.

Yes, that's right, Phil - it's a last version (I grabbed a kit like this two month ago).

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I even don’t know if it is a standard size... so you could tell me something more about wood… The rods have a little bigger head than the standard (like Amati).

FT size is standard - 14 or 16". Wood for last versions - 6 or 9-ply birch, without force-rings.

Tacton rod's heads are for standard key (Amati had a non-standard size - for original key with rounded sides)

From calfskin

the drums morphed through a number of different wood types before and by the late 80's at least some of the drums were being made from laminated pressed cardboard.

Yes, in Markneukirchen era - different kinds of wood, but after moving to Weissenfels - birch, mostly 95%.

Bakelized cardboard - yes it's true for low budget line models.

From calfskin

amazing, really.

What's amazing, dear Phil? Tacton is not absolutely original and not a pioneer in that idea. Let's remember low budget Premier, Pearl, student Tromsa --made from fibreboard and chipboard... :)

Posted on 13 years ago
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The tension rods are a little bigger than the standard (head is bigger and the body is bigger (fatter), trust me.

The size is 40cm which means 16''.

Bearing egdes are flat, no cuts. But the shell is thick, maybe 4-5mm.

And the wood is covered from the inside with some paper or something similar.

I am not sure that is birch !?!

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From marko1982

Bearing egdes are flat, no cuts. But the shell is thick, maybe 4-5mm. And the wood is covered from the inside with some paper or something similar. I am not sure that is birch !?!

Hi Marko.

If you see this - it means this one is product of low-budget "entry lines" of Tacton - made from bakelized-roll-paper without any cutting & angles on edges.

George.

Posted on 13 years ago
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These are the pictures if someone wants to know how that looks.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Edges? We don't need no stinking edges...

Yep, same idea as Slingerland Odyssey's and their cardboard/chipboard mess. Remo too maybe... not sure about that though. Although I did know a fellow with a Remo kit...

Let's not discuss 'that' particular drummer(?) though...

However much your parade gets rained on over the construction of the shell... that is a very cool wrap!

What's it sound like?

fishwaltz
Posted on 13 years ago
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From marko1982

The tension rods are a little bigger than the standard (head is bigger and the body is bigger (fatter), trust me.The size is 40cm which means 16''.Bearing egdes are flat, no cuts. But the shell is thick, maybe 4-5mm.And the wood is covered from the inside with some paper or something similar.I am not sure that is birch !?!

yes, you are right about the t-rod heads, Marko. they are slightly larger. some keys will fit though. the original Tacton key is 1/4" square = .250---the heads being slightly smaller around .230 square . a lot of them are hand ground or filed , so they are quite variable. so-called standard heads are really wierd because they are also quite variable ---between .200 to .212 with the keys being around .220( 7/32 = .218) some of the standard keys i have will fit the Tacton heads----one is an old Tama, while others that look exactly the same don't fit.an option is to find a 1/4" square clock key or a 1/4" water key. they would both work. i have some old 1/4" keys that came with a lot of old German drum parts and they are stamped #6. ----they are likely clock keys.

Posted on 13 years ago
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From Father-42

Yes, that's right, Phil - it's a last version (I grabbed a kit like this two month ago).FT size is standard - 14 or 16". Wood for last versions - 6 or 9-ply birch, without force-rings. Tacton rod's heads are for standard key (Amati had a non-standard size - for original key with rounded sides)Yes, in Markneukirchen era - different kinds of wood, but after moving to Weissenfels - birch, mostly 95%. Bakelized cardboard - yes it's true for low budget line models.What's amazing, dear Phil? Tacton is not absolutely original and not a pioneer in that idea. Let's remember low budget Premier, Pearl, student Tromsa --made from fibreboard and chipboard... :)

right, George. chipboard gets the job done at the right price ----- I guess? ----i am not sure about Tromsa , though? i don't have any drums made after about 1980, almost all predating 1970 and going back into the 40's and all of them have virtually the same shell. 3 ply green rolled poplar , or in the case of the bass drums 3 ply beech, both with 2 extra ply of beech as rerings. the bearing edges have morphed over the years from an incut angled edge to a half round to occasionally one determined by the plys themselves but given their system of shell mfg.----chipboard might have been a problem for them. have you actually seen these?

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