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If this pretty girl would have been a 22" instead of a 20", she'd probably be sitting next to me right now. As it is, what a beautiful Royalstar set, with that funkaaayyy ol' cymbal arm intact and everything.

[IMG]http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b273/ryanculberson/110504_010.jpg[/IMG]

Posted on 13 years ago
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Wow. Another Star with this 'Grey shimmer' copy wrap of Premier. It appears to be in great condition as well. We have exactly this set around here for a 2nd time.

If I were you, I'd buy it instantly. Those two inches in the bass drum won't matter to me. (What's your reason behind that?)

Ralf

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Hello Ralf!

For me, there is something fundamentally wrong with a 13-16-20 drum kit. I don't have any valid reason for that. To me, it's like hitting a yellow golf ball... sure it can be done but it just ain't right... :) For me, it's got to be 12-14-20 or 13-16-22 otherwise it bothers me to the point of distraction.

That being said, I already have a Royalstar kit in red satin flame that I enjoy very much and just couldn't justify another one. This particular kit is beautiful and I would have had a much harder time saying no if that bass drum was a 22. Guess it just wasn't meant to be.

Cheers,

Ryan

Posted on 13 years ago
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you don't see those cymbal arms too often. This looks a lot like forum member, Fishwaltz's one. Very nice. And 20/13/16 doesn't bother me at all but I get it with the yellow golf balls.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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From Fayray

you don't see those cymbal arms too often. This looks a lot like forum member, Fishwaltz's one. Very nice. And 20/13/16 doesn't bother me at all but I get it with the yellow golf balls.

Yes Fayray,That's the cymbal arm i made up for Fishwaltz at me shop....Mikey

Posted on 13 years ago
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for what i know 20'' bdrum with the 13'', 16'' toms where the original rock size's, when you go into drum shops and inquire about 20'' stuff they start with ''are your after stuff for your fusion kit, fusion kit this fusion kit that'' gives me the ****'s i wish i could get as much punch out of my 22'' gretsch kick as i get out of my yammy and pearl 20'', not going to get comment on bonhams sound,with his big kick drum, great player, one of the best, but i'll take the 20'' kick every time.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Yeah that's cool, alot, I get what you're saying.

For me, the 13-16-20 is just too distracting from a visual perspective. I know that's really really vain, but it is what it is. I spent the first 15 years of my drumming life playing a great sounding 13-16-20 vintage Ludwig kit. Every time (and I mean every single time) I would sit at that set, I would think to myself... "Damn, I wish this bass drum was a 22"."

We all have our little quirks and idiosyncrasies, right? :) So now, to remedy that particular quirk, I have a 12-14-20 kit and a couple of 13-16-22 kits. Problem solved for me and I don't have that nagging little voice in the back of my head anymore.

Cheers,

Ryan

Posted on 13 years ago
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I can understand the visual but I use a 12" 16" 22" set up a lot. Would a 12" tom bother you with the 16" and 22" instead of the 13" tom?

Posted on 13 years ago
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12-16-22 is cool with me, vibes. In fact, most of my recent gigs have been with a 12-16-24 configuration. I seriously have no rational explanation why the 13-16-20 bugs me. Here's a recent gig shot of the 12-16-24.

[IMG]http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b273/ryanculberson/Photo0472.jpg[/IMG]

Posted on 13 years ago
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Those are sweet. Where are they located, what is the asking price? That might make sense for someone looking for a really cool gigging or practice, or even a recording kit. Do you know the shell layup? Are they 3, 6 or 9 ply? The differences are not only sonic, but value based. If they are the newer "9 ply compressed shells wit reenforcement ring" shells, they will have a different sound than the 3 ply re-ring shells or the 6 ply straight shells. The 9 ply shells with rings are fat sounding monsters. The really thin 3 ply guys are really low in tone, making them sound like cannons, but with not a lot of projection, and the 6 ply are the ones that, right or wrong, get the most misunderstood reviews. All they need is the right head selection to be great sounding tubs.

For me, I am finding that the thin 3 and 9 ply compressed shells perform best with single ply coated heads and the thick 6 like a 2 ply of any description, likely everyones fave, the pinstripe, but don't limit yourself. A really good drum shop should have a complete round of every head set for "display" purposes. In other words, they should be ready to allow people to bring in their kit and be ready for sound checks.

Too bad they don't offer this service as it would make for much more loyal customers. Maybe the manufacturers should be brow-beat into doing this for some of the bigger guys at first, then extending the offer down the line so people can get what they NEED, not what the big suited guys want to sell.

Just my 2 pennies.....

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Posted on 13 years ago
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