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One thing, it DOES NOT stick well to raw wood. You must sand and then lacquer the shells to a very smooth texture. It is imperative to use at least 3 coats or mare or it peel right back off. In other words, you must have a hard, solid surface in order to make te wrap stay put.

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Posted on 13 years ago
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I would check all the drum suppliers and see if any of them has a close out or something. Any color would be better than that cheap wrap.

From azharleyriderxl

Ok, I am not 100% sure of the wrap I am going to use. I really need to do this on a tight budget. Anyone want to trade these slinglands for ludwig bass drum claws?https://picasaweb.google.com/Dieselssturgispics/Mar132011#here was the before:https://picasaweb.google.com/Dieselssturgispics/Drums#

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 13 years ago
#12
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I agree. Do it right, do it once. It may cost a little more now but it will be worth it in the long run. If you want a practice kit on the cheap then just put the hardware on it like it is. Don't think it'll get any cheaper than that and it'll sound just the same.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Hi all...I agree with everyone here on this. I have tried the cheap ebay wrap and turned out to be a waiste of money. You should have left the wrap on the drums, but too late now. Try jammin Sams, he's a nice guy and can help you out. Don't want you to go through what myself and others have experienced with the cheap wrap.....Joe

Posted on 13 years ago
#14
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You might want to contact this seller if you want .15 mil material for $39 on a 24x100 sheet. I don't know about the product, but it seems pretty close if not "real" drum wrap. This seller has been posting the product on eBay for some time now-- again I don't know much about it. Maybe someone else here has bought some?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Vinyl-Drum-Wrap-Red-Moir-24x100-Not-EZ-wrap-/140521048341?pt=Vintgae_Drums_Percussion&hash=item20b7b50915

Posted on 13 years ago
#15
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You know, if you them smoothed out nicely through proper sanding, you could just use a nice colored lacquer and just do it that way. That would be a better finish than sparklebrite and far cheaper than new wrap.

I have a process I use to apply a glitter finish with lacquer. Buy a couple of large bottle/can of glitter at a local hobby store, apply a panel of lacqer, then start sprinkling on the glitter. If you put down a nice base color, you can then use whatever color glitter you like. It looks nice, but they will be that color permanently. I have done it several times with great results. It takes a few coats and it is a bit messy and time consuming, but if done properly, they look great!

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
http://www.youtube.com/user/karstenboy
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Coffee...16613138379603
Posted on 13 years ago
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jonnistix...that looks amazing! Do you put a clear coat over the glitter to smooth it out and protect it?

Gary G.
1963 Ludwig Gold Sparkle Hollywood Kit
Ludwig Collection: 10 Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Customized Vintage Snare Drums, 4 Vintage Foot Pedals, 1 Single Value Bugle
Posted on 13 years ago
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From GG Vintage

jonnistix...that looks amazing! Do you put a clear coat over the glitter to smooth it out and protect it?

Yes, and I ONLY USE LACQUER, I do not use, nor do I recommend polyurethane AT ALL.

This particular kit, however, had a large grained glitter, almost like small rock salt. If you use the regular grade of glitter, you simply put down a base coat, then start doing the glittering panel by panel, sprinkling it on heavy over a sheet of visqueen and recycle as much as possible. After each coat has dried enough to work, I use 4-0 steel wool between coats.

The final coat is really up to how it already looks, 2 final coats of gloss with no more glitter sets it up nicely. I can't get my first kits' pix off my old hard drive. They turned out looking like Champ Spark and are very smooth and look like a wrap. It just takes time and patience, but the results can be as stunning as you care to put in the effort for.

The kit pictured below is not the best example of my work, but you get the idea, and the look amazing under lights. The young jazzer that bought them absolutely loves the way they look and sound. The large grain makes for some great refraction under any lighting condition.

"Ignorance may be overcome through education. Stupidity, however, is a lifelong endeavor." So, educate me, I don't likes bein' ignant...
"I enjoy restoring 60s Japanese "stencil" drums...I can actually afford them..."I rescue the worst of the old valueless drums for disadvantaged Children and gladly accept donations of parts, pieces and orphans, No cockroaches, please...
http://www.youtube.com/user/karstenboy
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Coffee...16613138379603
Posted on 13 years ago
#18
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Jammin Sams has white pearl on special for $149.99. thats pretty cheap and is real wrap.

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 13 years ago
#19
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Jammin Sams is local to me. I am going to get the real wrap. I had to take the black wrap off. to unfil the holes for the bottom lugs. I think I may just stretch this project out and get a orange glitter like the originals.

I am not in a hurry to to this.

Also, someone painted the insides of the shells. I want them to be uniform, should I just hit them all with some primer and then paint them all white?

Thoughts suggestions.

Does anyone know what the original color was called. The badge on the drum was 42,xxx serial number which means 64, right>

Posted on 13 years ago
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