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White Oyster Amati

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One day I thought I'd make myself custom Amati bop kit... http://vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=17479

I sold that 18" FT/BD so I could buy these

http://vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=19142

Now I'm selling some of them to pay for THIS and NOW I really think it's a keeper!!

So, I have 6ply white oyster Amatis. 20"x14" BD, 12"x9" mounted tom, 16"x16" FT, 14"x5" matching snare, HH stand, straight cymbal stand, BD pedal, 15" hats and 20" ride. All original, excluding batter head on BD and a screw or two. Wrap and chrome are in absolutely stunning condition, they used to belong to hotel Imperial in Karlovy Vary (Karlsbad), the seller played them there back in 1972.

Altough they're not the oldest (probably best) series of Amatis, they look so good I just had to get them... for little more than 100 dollars!! There's some ply separation and I don't think the original heads and some hardware can live up to today's standards, but otherwise, they're wonderful.

Cymbals are typical Amatis, made of brass, clangy, good as beginner cymbals. They're stamped ČSR (Czechoslovak Republic), wich would date them before 1960 (in wich the state was renamed ČSSR, meaning Czechoslovak Socialistic Republic. Commies, who were at power from 1948, wanted to make an impression that we were closer to the marxist heaven on earth, but it had no economical basis, they just decided to say so.), but that seems unlikely to me, so I think they were just using the old stamp for a longer time. Knowing how the commies were touchy about this, it seems weird, but I just don't know.

Seller said he threw away the original snare stand "because it was ugly," but luckily, I happen to own one, altough not in so untouched original condition, so I'll get some more photos when I bring it home from rehearsal room.

[IMG]http://img1.rajce.idnes.cz/d0103/4/4412/4412091_b50cfdc073137e0ecf7ef5c6a45e4991/images/white_kit.jpg[/IMG]

Wrap looks great, the photo of the whole kit doesn't do it justice at all, so here's one close-up.

[IMG]http://img1.rajce.idnes.cz/d0103/4/4412/4412091_b50cfdc073137e0ecf7ef5c6a45e4991/images/white_logo.jpg[/IMG]

The tom has yellowed a bit as you can see comparing it to bass drum.

Peace

Gilnar

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-196?-72 6ply White Oyster Amati
-1960s 3ply Red Sparkle Amati
- Zildjian, Paiste, Zyn, Istanbul

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Those are beautiful drums-what an excellent score!

Posted on 13 years ago
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Meazzi Hollywood drums from Italy have a similar finish..............

Very cool/rare kit!......Bowing Do they sound any good?

Could you shoot us a inside pic or two,so we can see the construction?

Thanks

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Posted on 13 years ago
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WHOA!

How cool is that? Those drums look new! Great find Gilnar.

Dude, that is mondo coolio... Bowing

I've had a great time reading about your exploits searching for the 'perfect' vintage kit. Most of the kits you mention I've never heard of here in California, but then I guess that would be understandable due to the politics of those times, which I remember far to well.

Anyway, for a hundred bucks you did indeed get a deal. How is the hardware? The few cast metal items I saw from Eastern Block countries of those times always seemed to be made out of the worst slag metal imaginable. The things I examined was not drum stuff, just stuff manufactured in Romania if I remember correctly.

So there ya are... riding high, sitting pretty... thumpin' on your 'commie' drums! lol

fishwaltz
Posted on 13 years ago
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I love it! wow. Such style and design. Love everything from the external hihat springs to the foot boards, the interesting bass drum tom mount system, the great wrap, and the lettered logo, hihat cymbals look fantastic too (remind me of Paiste Giant Beats) I sometimes like decent light brass hats for jazz- often they give a softer chick and a dark, trashy sound for sticking Congrats

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Congrat Gilnar!Great find,hope i will find something similar one of these days here in Serbia.I didn' realize that those old Amati had a 6 ply model?All of them I have ever seen were 3 ply with re rings!probably that model did not came in Serbia.By the way,we called those lugs snails in that time

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Very nice find Gilnar my friend! Too bad the other tom is missing. That would have made for a very sweet deal indeed! Do they use standard or metric heads?

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real classy. Nice colour and the hardware is cool. Sweet!

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Thank you, everyone. You can bet I'm overjoyed to have these babies!

From blairndrums

Meazzi Hollywood drums from Italy have a similar finish..............Very cool/rare kit!......Bowing Do they sound any good?Could you shoot us a inside pic or two,so we can see the construction?Thanks

They don't sound good... YET. These old Amati heads look pretty but are absolutely horrible and can't be used. I've put some old Emperor on the tom and man did it come alive! With proper heads and careful tuning, they won't sound bad, I think, but they never were a professional quality drums.

I'm leaving for my friend's cab tomorrow, but will get some interior pics when I get back.

From fishwaltz

WHOA!How is the hardware? The few cast metal items I saw from Eastern Block countries of those times always seemed to be made out of the worst slag metal imaginable. The things I examined was not drum stuff, just stuff manufactured in Romania if I remember correctly.

Hardware is OK, because it's been cared for or not used much, but generally, Amati hardware suffers from soft metal being used for coils? I can't find the proper word. You know, screws were OK, from good steel, but holes for them were too soft and coils would often wear off, damaging the screw and making setting up such hardware an enormous pain in the a**.

Eastren bloc would often use good materials for crappy designs or vice versa, because there were just bonehads in the leading positions. The economy wasn't driven by competition and trying to be best, but by many years's plans of what will be manufactured. Those plans were so far from real needs of people that there were large warehouses of stuff nobody would ever buy, but people were qeueing for toilet paper (just an example, it varied for every five year plan). In this environment, after all the talented people from before the war retired, were imprisoned, emmigrated, or whatever, those who were left just had no motivation for trying to make good stuff. They had their market in the east bloc, they would rarely export to West, so why bother and inovate and strive to make good things, when your salary or prosperity of the company won't be affected by the sales anyway? It's kinda hard to explain, I myself don't fully understand it, as I was born after the Velvet Revolution. My parents often tried to explain me various absurd and often very depressive features of the former regime, but I guess you'd have to be born and live in that madness to really get what it was all about.

From jonnistix

Very nice find Gilnar my friend! Too bad the other tom is missing. That would have made for a very sweet deal indeed! Do they use standard or metric heads?

Yes, I'm missing one tom and the BD mounted cymbal arm. But they must've been lost a long time back, or maybe the kit was being sold without them with the option of adding them for extra price. Seller said the kit was complete. They use standard heads, but, oddly, the 16" hoops are a few mms too small. I have to acquire some newer ones, they started to make them in proper size sometime later in the 70s.

Sysl krysu nenahradi!

-196?-72 6ply White Oyster Amati
-1960s 3ply Red Sparkle Amati
- Zildjian, Paiste, Zyn, Istanbul

http://bandzone.cz/blueswan
Posted on 13 years ago
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Gilnar:

Coils = threads I bet. Screw threads. IF not, I got what you meant. Thanks!

And, I really like that wrap by the way. The snail lugs are great!

Oh yeah... 'boneheads'. LOL. Everybody's got 'em. I think we should put all the 'boneheads' on an island somewhere and let drummers run the place... It would be 'groovy'.

(gag, what a bad pun)

Once again, great find!

fishwaltz
Posted on 13 years ago
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