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Did that shell have large classic lugs or small classic lugs?

From ludwigvondrummer

I have a bare 10x14 bp shell that I am considering having professionally converted to a 6x14. It would require moving the rings, hence involving a professional. Also, my money tree needs a few more leaves.

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 14 years ago
#41
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The 10x14 had large classics. If converted to snare, I have some classic snare lugs to use.

looking for Ludwig Black Panther 8" concert tom
Posted on 14 years ago
#42
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I believe a 10X14 snare has small classic lugs. I have a 6.5x14 I wraped with vinyl that has the same grain as BP. It looks like a BP but isnt. I didnt even put a badge on it. I also have my supraphonic that coulda came with the kit.

From ludwigvondrummer

The 10x14 had large classics. If converted to snare, I have some classic snare lugs to use.

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 14 years ago
#43
Posts: 112 Threads: 7

From poppy79424

There's a kit on guitar center used gear section right now for $1,399http://used.guitarcenter.com/usedgear/index.cfm

There's another one here http://cgi.ebay.ca/Ludwig-Drumset-Vintage-BJ-1971-Schlagzeug-Black-Panther-/310187392597?pt=Drums_Percussion&hash=item48389bfe55

Posted on 14 years ago
#44
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12" toms have small classic lugs, 13 & 14" toms have large classic lugs, 14" marching snares have small classic lugs. I wonder why?

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 14 years ago
#45
Posts: 25 Threads: 4

The 10x14 tom is drilled for six and the snares are drilled for 8. The larger lugs may just be to bulky in an 8 lug scenario.

looking for Ludwig Black Panther 8" concert tom
Posted on 14 years ago
#46
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lighten the drum maybe?,

Posted on 14 years ago
#47
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Ok, here's a real nice video from Stockholm 1969 showing Mitch on his black panthers again...double bass.....

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8iFholCpKo"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8iFholCpKo[/ame]

Posted on 14 years ago
#48
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hello im interested in the black panther set i have a chance to but a 26,13,16 what would be a fair price

Posted on 14 years ago
#49
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From harkie85

hello im interested in the black panther set i have a chance to but a 26,13,16 what would be a fair price

a 26" 3 ply bass drum by it's self is very expensive, what condition,are all the drums?are they all original? what is the wrap condition in? many variables. if you could get it for under 1k. but the black panthers aren't all that popular so less maybe possible.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 14 years ago
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