So gentlemen what gives? I have a 1971 LUDWIG kit, 24,18,16,14. I believe it is a 3 ply kit. A couple of questions. How can you tell the difference? Are the 3 ply less valuable or desired, or more common compared to 6 ply? Did LUDWIG come out each year with an option of 3 ply and 6 ply?:confused:
Ludwig 3 Ply?
Sing with me:
No ring for six
No ring for six
No ring for six
The shell is thick
"whee" with glee, you say
"I've got three and a ring for me to play!"
Three and a ring
Three and a ring
Three and a ring
I'll play all day
Magic three has the ring which all will pay to play
Thick shelled six has no ring which is bad, some will say
It is your ears that you must trust
And not the press or doubters
You sit behind and groove along
And play with passion and power
The name is big
The name is known
To all who wield the stick
Ludwig and Ringo will both agree
You win whichever you pick
Six or three
Three or six
Sing with me:No ring for six No ring for sixNo ring for sixThe shell is thick"whee" with glee, you say"I've got three and a ring for me to play!"Three and a ringThree and a ringThree and a ring I'll play all dayMagic three has the ring which all will pay to playThick shelled six has no ring which is bad, some will sayIt is your ears that you must trustAnd not the press or doubtersYou sit behind and groove alongAnd play with passion and powerThe name is bigThe name is knownTo all who wield the stickLudwig and Ringo will both agreeYou win whichever you pick Six or threeThree or six
You sir, are a cretin!! But very entertaining! LOL!!
Tommyp
We's aims to please, TommyPs.
...and it's pronounced "cretin".
One of my favorite lines in "Monsters Inc"
So gentlemen what gives? I have a 1971 LUDWIG kit, 24,18,16,14. I believe it is a 3 ply kit. How can you tell the difference?
3-ply construction would be normal for Ludwig drums built in '71.
It's easy to tell them apart. Take off a head (or look through a clear one) to look at the cross section of the shell. The plies are often pretty easy to see. Three-ply shells will also have a reinforcing ring just inside the bearing edge to help keep the shell in round.
Are the 3 ply less valuable or desired, or more common compared to 6 ply?
The 3-ply shells aren't any less valuable or desired. In fact, 3-ply drums have a lot of fans among vintage drum enthusiasts. That thin shell construction is a big part of vintage drums' characteristic sound versus "modern" drums with thicker shells.
Did LUDWIG come out each year with an option of 3 ply and 6 ply?:confused:
Ludwig changed their standard shell construction from 3-ply to 6-ply in 1976, with some 3-ply shells lasting into 1978. The newer 6-ply shells were stronger and cheaper to build.
Here's a shell timeline (excerpted from Rob Cook's book) on the Ludwig web site: http://www.ludwig-drums.com/features/hoamld/woodshellguide.php
Thanks SkyDog....I appreciate the response to each of my questions. I am always learning something new on this forum, especially from the stand up members......Long live vintage LUDWIG....
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