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'63 Ludwig grommet dilema

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:confused: I've aquired a 14" Ludwig BDP down beat floor tom. A previous owner removed the badge, destroying the back lip of the grommet (and chewing up the grommet hole, also). The badge has a nice,bronze patina, as does the remainder of the grommet. Do I: A) Glue in the remainder of the grommet W/ badge so it still looks legit from the outside? B) Use a new grommet that's all shiney and bright? Or C) Use the new grommet and polish the badge so that the grommet and badge look like they go together? Does anyone make an "aged" grommet, or can I age a new one with an acid or somthing? I've just polished the shell, and it looks new. This situation has hurt the value some, (I am just fixing it to sell it). What would YOU do?

Posted on 13 years ago
#1
Posts: 2237 Threads: 272

I would experiment. I'd get several grommets and try various toxins on them, maybe even bury a few for a while. maybe theres some paint available that might match. Intresting experimment though........

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 13 years ago
#2
Posts: 10714 Threads: 579

I'll sale you and aged gromment if you need one. I've been doing this for years aging parts, just let me know!

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 13 years ago
#3
Posts: 683 Threads: 96

You can heat the grommet with a torch to age it. Don't get it too hot or it will melt.

30's Radio King - 26, 13, 13, 16
49 - WFL Ray McKinley - 26, 13, 16
58 - Slingerland Duco
58 - Slingerland Krupa Deluxe
70 - Ludwig Champagne Sparkle - 20, 12, 14
70 - Ludwig Champagne Sparkle - 22 (need), 13, 16
And some others..
Posted on 13 years ago
#4
Posts: 10714 Threads: 579

here are some pics of two gromments one is original and shiney. the other aged and nasty. not performed using heat, all natural methods where used.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 13 years ago
#5
Posts: 2237 Threads: 272

There ya go! Ask a question and get a answer!!

1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
Posted on 13 years ago
#6
Posts: 683 Threads: 96

VM2 - Nice - Did you use salt and vinegar bath?

Attached is heat used on a Gretsch round badge...the only good thing with heat is it doesn't take too long. Oh for anyone reading this...you heat and age the grommet BEFORE you put it on the drum. :)

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30's Radio King - 26, 13, 13, 16
49 - WFL Ray McKinley - 26, 13, 16
58 - Slingerland Duco
58 - Slingerland Krupa Deluxe
70 - Ludwig Champagne Sparkle - 20, 12, 14
70 - Ludwig Champagne Sparkle - 22 (need), 13, 16
And some others..
Posted on 13 years ago
#7
Posts: 10714 Threads: 579

From GoneDrumming

VM2 - Nice - Did you use salt and vinegar bath?Attached is heat used on a Gretsch round badge...the only good thing with heat is it doesn't take too long. Oh for anyone reading this...you heat and age the grommet BEFORE you put it on the drum. :)

No, I didn't use the vinegar,salt bath, I don't like the results, I experimented with various methods, and have now found one that works for me.

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 13 years ago
#8
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From vintagemore2000

No, I didn't use the vinegar,salt bath, I don't like the results, I experimented with various methods, and have now found one that works for me.

So...... are you gonna share or keep it to yourself?

Its better to have people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and prove them wrong, unless you doubt yourself then speak away....
Posted on 13 years ago
#9
Posts: 10714 Threads: 579

From backbeatkeeper

So...... are you gonna share or keep it to yourself?

BBK, sorry... It's locked away with colonel Sanders chicken recipe.:)

Your drummers not much good is he!? What you need is someone that's as good as me. ! John Henry Bonham !!
Posted on 13 years ago
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