If you dare to put those snaps on a '63 Gene Krupa kit, then don't be too surprised if you get a knock on the door in the middle of the night from the Vintage Drum Police. That's a capital offense you know.

All right, what's all this then!?? LoLoLoLo

Reminds me of this:

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Hey y'all,

I always thought these were cool, but as the ebay picture showed, it's just a wee bit ridiculous to have to pay the prices they are now. I know that Zildjian advertised them in their catalouges as late as 1984 or so.

There is a newer, more modern and MUCH more afforadable option out there. They are made by Camber (of all companies) and they are called "T-Tops". They don't have the moving center piece, but it threads on in place of your wing nut and the top of it comes to upside down "V", like a generic drawing of a house roof. You leave them threaded on the stands, and just take your cymbal on and off at an angle. I like the fact that there are no moving parts. Nothing to rattle, nothing to break, nothing to wear out.

I use them on ALL my stands, they certainly save time and look really cool! If you use a top felt on your cymbal (I don't; I like my cymbals to swing freely), you'll have to take your felt on/off at an angle as well (and maybe stretch out the center hole a bit), but it's still easier and you also get a 0% chance of your wing nut falling off your stand while packing up, then rolling 30+ feet off the bandstand and coming to rest under a piano, pool table or a wall fixed radiator (as it somehow always magically seems to!).

Explorer's Percussion carries them. They come in 6mm or 8mm and in packs of 2. I know most Vintage Ludwig, Rogers etc. stands are 1/4" thread, but 6mm and 1/4" are very close. A little lubrication and some light twists on the pliers will make the 6mm fit snugly (without damaging the threads at all). Also, the T-Tops only thread on so far (about 3-4 complete turns), so I try to get my sleeve to come most of the way up the threads (leaving just a few "rows" of threading exposed), so it tightens snugly against the sleeve, which protects the cymbal all the way and helps keep the T-Tops from coming loose.

Here is a link to them (I'm pretty sure they have 6mm too-If not try Fork's Drum Closet):

http://www.explorersdrums.com/Products/0-168116/CamberTTops.aspx

Hope this helps!

Yes they are newer, but I wouldn't say they were new. I remember these coming out in the mid-1970's.......I remember using them then too, as well as the zil-snaps....never liked either.....I found it easier to put a new nylon sleeve on the stand that was a bit longer than the original so the wing nut would bottom out and tighten up before it was too tight on the cymbal.....I still do that to this day.

Forgive me for being so stupid,...What does that thing do ?? Where does it go ??

The cymbal snap or the camber T-top? Well....either one would replace the wing nut at the top of you VINTAGE cymbal stand. They won't fit modern stands, mainly because modern stands are metric threads, these were american or sae threads.

Are people getting that lazy ??

I can understand if your threads are stripped,..this would be ideal !!

Except for my ROTO toms,..I don`t need tools to break down and cart my kit cuz of wing nuts and butterfly bolts,.....it gives me time to look over the kit,...What`s next,...telescope`n sticks ??

Hey guys, I was in Pro Drum, Los Angeles a few weeks ago. I was talking to Jerry one of Bob Yeager's step sons who runs the shop. He told me about Howie, who worked at the store and also built the Blaemires for Hal Blaine and Ringo. Jerry also said that Howie built all of the cymbal clips for Zildjian.

He made them at home in his Garage. They were his idea. He would build them and sell them to Zildjian.

Gotta love the history coming out of Pro Drum Shop

The theory behind them at the time was: "no more losing that hard to thread wing nut on your cymbal stand anymore!"

You have to figure that on vintage stands, the wing nuts were much smaller than the ones they use on today's modern stands and you could drop and lose them easily when starting them on the threads of the tilter, and also there were no "starter" sections of said threads like todays stands. It was an interesting idea, but they never really caught on.