If it is, I got a pretty darn good price on it.
Can't really tell from the pics.
If it is, I got a pretty darn good price on it.
Can't really tell from the pics.
If it's not It's doing an awful good Imitation of one!Falling Do
I believe that's what I might have.
This is not at all what I expected to see.
The serial number of 2057777 dates it to 1980+ (newer than 1980).
The shell looks new and the wrap looks BRAND NEW but the muffler looks 20 years old.
The biggest killer is that the badge grommet is a split grommet and it's a real real bad fit. It doesn't even cover the hole in the badge.
Now, I know craftsmanship was getting worse on a lot of items by the 80's but this looks pure amateur.
The shell looks like a cheapo TKO shell with a sort of beige or off white paint.
It looks like a 4 ply shell.
2 hole P-85 blackface strainer.
I am definitely confused.
EDIT: I just noticed that the badge is glued down.
Wow, that's a let down.
show pics of the entire drum inside and out show the vent hole badge! from the original pic it looked to be a JF but that wasn't a good pic, had I know you were thinking or buying the drum, could of evaluated it better for you.
I ran over to George's and Matt felt it was definitely not a Ludwig shell.
Here are some more pics. I'll wait a couple hours to hear from people here before I contact the seller but, I think we have a definite "significantly not as described" item here. LOL
you can go ahead and file your snad, that Isn't a ludwig jazz fest, have you looked the serial # up to see where the badge is dated at?
The serial number of 2057777 dates it to 1980+ (newer than 1980).
I just looked at this sellers feedback and all of his bad feedback (only 3) are all for selling fake merchandise. The auction says he's not a drummer and knows nothing about drums but I have to wonder. I may ask that he pay return shipping as well. I'm not saying he intentionally defrauded but it looks a little like that.
The serial number of 2057777 dates it to 1980+ (newer than 1980).I just looked at this sellers feedback and all of his bad feedback (only 3) are all for selling fake merchandise. The auction says he's not a drummer and knows nothing about drums but I have to wonder. I may ask that he pay return shipping as well. I'm not saying he intentionally defrauded but it looks a little like that.
Yeah you want a full and total refund, if that was the correct shell from 1980+ it would be 6 ply and a clear Interior shell not white painted.
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