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Filling in shell holes-Does polyurethane make them stronger?

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Hello,

I typically use Minwax Wood Filler to fill in un-necessary holes in drums. My question to you is this:

On larger holes (such as the bass drum post, or on the "Pearl Style" arms/brackets), after I sand the wood filler so it's level everywhere, what do you think of using a polyurethane on the wood filler itself?

I have tried this on some cheaper, non-vintage drums. My theory on doing the polyurethane is that the shell is obviously subject to a lot of vibration. Polyurethane soaks into the wood filler and makes it stiffer, harder, stronger, and "one" with the rest of the wood fibers around it. After using several coats of polyurethane on the filled spots (inside and out), it became just as hard and stiff as the rest of the shell.

I was always worried that on larger holes (1" or more), that the wood filler may just eventually "vibrate out" one day.

What do you think?

Posted on 13 years ago
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Hi, I'd like to add my non expert but "been there" experience. Go to the lumber yard and buy some wood dowels with the same/close diameter as the holes you're filling. Cut them to proper length and use them along with the wood filler. I did this 10 years ago on the very holes you're talking about and they look great and never came out!!

Posted on 13 years ago
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The dowels are the way to go but get a dowel larger than the hole to be filled. Cut about a 3-4" piece of the dowel off and chuck it up in a drill. Get some course sandpaper and sand the end of the dowel to make it have a taper. Then you can tap that into the hole for a really tight fit. Dab some epoxy on your dowel and stick it into the hole and tap with a hammer untill it is in there really snug. Let the epoxy dry, cut off the excess and sand till its even with the drum shell inside and out, or you can cut the plug off of the dowel to the right size before you tap it in. If the Dowel is larger than your drill chuck, Srew a long wood screw into the end on the dowel and cut the head off of the screw and chuck the screw up in the drill and procede. I have detailed pics of this procedure on my converting ludwig standards to luddy classics thread. The hole filling procedure starts about post #44

http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=17593&page=2

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Posted on 13 years ago
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From poppy79424

The dowels are the way to go but get a dowel larger than the hole to be filled. Cut about a 3-4" piece of the dowel off and chuck it up in a drill. Get some course sandpaper and sand the end of the dowel to make it have a taper. Then you can tap that into the hole for a really tight fit. Dab some epoxy on your dowel and stick it into the hole and tap with a hammer untill it is in there really snug. Let the epoxy dry, cut off the excess and sand till its even with the drum shell inside and out, or you can cut the plug off of the dowel to the right size before you tap it in. If the Dowel is larger than your drill chuck, Srew a long wood screw into the end on the dowel and cut the head off of the screw and chuck the screw up in the drill and procede. I have detailed pics of this procedure on my converting ludwig standards to luddy classics thread. The hole filling procedure starts about post #44http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=17593&page=2

What great advice Poppy...I will remember this!

Cheers

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Posted on 13 years ago
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Dadgum MacGyver, that Poppy is !!!........Clapping Happy2

Kevin
Posted on 13 years ago
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Actually i got that idea from Jaye. He mentioned filling small holes with chopsticks, which are tapered, so i figured i could make a giant chopstick to fill larger holes and it really works extremly well. I do have my MacGyver knife with me at all times!!!!

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1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
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