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Fake K's

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You wouldn't want to buy one of these:

[img]http://photos.imageevent.com/drumaholic/kzildjianhistorical/websize/IMGP3636.jpg[/img]

[img]http://photos.imageevent.com/drumaholic/kzildjianhistorical/websize/IMGP3638.jpg[/img]

This is not the one that was discussed on Cymbalholic a while back, but a recent example. To me this cymbal look fake even at first glance, but not everybody will probably be able to tell from the look alone. This was sent to me by a guy in Italy who wanted to get my opinion about it. The seller is claiming it to be 25 years old.

If you look at the trademark it superficially resembles a new stamp. But there are several problems with the stamp the greatest of which is that it says Zilojian, instead of Zildjian. Also there's no signature under the bell.

Posted on 13 years ago
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Ok, so it's a fake. But looks nice even though.

How do these fake Ks sound?

Sysl krysu nenahradi!

-196?-72 6ply White Oyster Amati
-1960s 3ply Red Sparkle Amati
- Zildjian, Paiste, Zyn, Istanbul

http://bandzone.cz/blueswan
Posted on 13 years ago
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From Gilnar

Ok, so it's a fake. But looks nice even though.How do these fake Ks sound?

I have no idea. I've never heard one. And in fact I don't care either, because I deal in the real.

Posted on 13 years ago
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From Drumaholic

This is not the one that was discussed on Cymbalholic a while back, but a recent example. To me this cymbal look fake even at first glance, but not everybody will probably be able to tell from the look alone. This was sent to me by a guy in Italy who wanted to get my opinion about it. The seller is claiming it to be 25 years old.[/center] If you look at the trademark it superficially resembles a new stamp. But there are several problems with the stamp the greatest of which is that it says Zilojian, instead of Zildjian. Also there's no signature under the bell.

Wouldn't you think this might be from the same batch since those also were stamped with Zilojian?

http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=16084

Scott

Posted on 13 years ago
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From HerronScott

Wouldn't you think this might be from the same batch since those also were stamped with Zilojian?http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=16084Scott

Yes, I would think so.

But there's much more to it than faking a trademark. You just can't fake an old K.

Posted on 13 years ago
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No doubt!

Scott

Posted on 13 years ago
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But the Agop 30th Anniversaries are the closest I've heard anybody come yet.

One reason their getting better is because they're actually hand hammering the bells in. Not machine pressed in plus some hammering, but 100% by hand like the old K's. It makes a difference that I noticed right away.

Posted on 13 years ago
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I believe that Dream also hammers the bell in on their Bliss series. Those sound, to my ear, very reminscent of Old K's.

Posted on 13 years ago
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There's only a few that still do it that way. Personally, I really like the Dream Bliss cymbals.

Posted on 13 years ago
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From Drumaholic

You wouldn't want to buy one of these:[img]http://photos.imageevent.com/drumaholic/kzildjianhistorical/websize/IMGP3636.jpg[/img][img]http://photos.imageevent.com/drumaholic/kzildjianhistorical/websize/IMGP3638.jpg[/img]This is not the one that was discussed on Cymbalholic a while back, but a recent example. To me this cymbal look fake even at first glance, but not everybody will probably be able to tell from the look alone. This was sent to me by a guy in Italy who wanted to get my opinion about it. The seller is claiming it to be 25 years old. If you look at the trademark it superficially resembles a new stamp. But there are several problems with the stamp the greatest of which is that it says Zilojian, instead of Zildjian. Also there's no signature under the bell.

Can't see much of the Arabic, but other than the misspelling, the rest of the stramp does look like a new stamp, as your pointed out. It makes me wonder why they couldn't get Zildjian spelled correctly to complete the illusion of a proper stamp.

Mark
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Posted on 13 years ago
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