That was never said of all makes, just about Supras.

Try a Supra side-by-side for yourself and see what you think.

I could not tell the difference except for rim shots.

Your findings may differ, but maybe not.

If I had a couple of them to do a side-by-side with, I would, for sure. I just tried searching for the thread that Ludwig Dude mentioned, and couldn't find it. Did you and Vintage make a video of your experiment by chance? If so, I'd love to see it.

I'm just a tad skeptical because I've played around with other snares (Pearl Sensitones, bronze and Ludalloy Supras, import shells of various metals from a local drum shop, etc...), and I've always been able to tell a distinct discernible difference between the shells.

Nope, we didn't shoot a video...

But, I can assure you that crappy video microphones, digital to analog conversion, and even the best of computer speaker set ups will lie to your ears before I will.

I was truly thinking there would be a difference... even expecting it, but not to my ears could you tell.

Yes, but you are comparing apples to oranges when you do that. You can't compare a Pearl to a supra, or a tama to a Pearl.....we're talking about two drums manufactured by the SAME manufacturer here in a side by side comparison.

Also, I was speaking of the aluminum shell supra, old vs new. I never even mentioned a brass supra, and neither did the original poster. How that argument crept in here is beyond me......LoLoLoLo

I stand by my original statment that you would be hard pressed to tell the difference of the two drums side by side.

No rudeness intended, sorry if it came off that way....Group Hug

That's what I'm talking about as well. In the Sensitone series, there's brass, steel, and aluminum. Same sizes, same heads. When tuned the same, you can TOTALLY tell a difference in the way they sound from each other. Same with comparing a bronze 402 with a Ludalloy 402...they sound worlds apart. And, a local shop here used to make their own brand of drums from import shells...copper, bronze, and brass. The bronze and copper sounded *similar*, but you could tell that the copper had a much deeper level of complexity/warmth. Brass sounded different in its own way. I've also been able to try different Pearl Free-floating shells side-by-side as well. Those ones are a little trickier to tell apart, because the ring that they rest in that makes them "free floating" actually muffles the sound quite a bit, and they all kinda sound the same, even the wood ones.

Truth be told, I want to try the two supra models side-by-side, but it doesn't keep me awake at night enough to actually spring for a COB Supra. I'm not saying I wouldn't buy one if the right deal came along, but it's not on my most wanted list of snares to buy. I do want to hear that comparison for myself, though, and make doubly sure that they're tuned exactly the same.

Group Hug 'sall good Kiss

There might be some SLIGHT differences in sound between a brass and an aluminum supra, but not so much that its blatent.....bronze, yes there is a HUGE difference in sound, much drier and woody sounding than a regular supra.....but what we were talking about was comparing a vintage supra (ludalloy assumed) vs a new supra (also ludalloy assumed). There is NO difference in sound between the two....which is what amazes me about the vintage market on these.......why buy a pitted, flaking, peeling vintage one, when for just a little bit more you can buy a shiney new one?

Also, like I statd before...some claim they can here differences between the various finishes on the acrolite snares......I say that's BS. They are also made the same way and paint or whatever coating is NOT going to make a discernable difference in sound. That's like someone saying they can tell the difference in sound on the 3-ply Ludwig shells....whether they have white, natural maple, or granitone interiors! Someone on here once actually claimed this? I'm sorry, but that is also BS to me....paint is paint, period.

Ok, I'm off the Soap Box LoLoLoLo

What about the mahogany vs maple interiors? Don't you hear the...

...nevermind...I think I'll leave that one alone for now. :D

Man, I get alot of mileage out of this webpage.

http://pdgood.us/shootout/aluminum/aluminum.html

If I could find the original thread, anyway, here I go again. myself and kevins, took a modern meaning a 1998 402 solid brass edition snare drum this drum is or was a demo model at the NAMM show it has brass triple flange rims brass tube lugs heavy brass shell, the only thing that's not brass is the strainer butt end and t-rods, ludwig heads top and bottom and puresound 24 strand snare wires. Kevins is a 402 Ludalloy stock steel rims, remo heads and stock ludwig snare wires, each drum was placed exact same height and angle,one on each side of me with myself in the middle, I played each drum Individually with both hands, all over the entire head surface,then I played both drums simultaneously with one drum on each side me in the middle, it sounded No difference, I say this with total shock considering my 402 cost twice what kevins does and two different material brass and ludalloy, the only tone difference was when I started doing rim shots then there was a huge difference, now this was a modern test not a crimped bed shell test, I have them also and there is a huge difference in those older ludwig shells really, this maybe be a bitter pill to swallow for some but I conducted the test to my shock, you cant compare other brands to this test, they are not the same animals, the only similarities are they are drums period, Caddy we were kevin and myself chip in and buy a camera but since the video section is going bye bye we aren't now Sorry, between kevins collection and mine we have a Ton of drums we were going to do this with?? Oh well