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Old 11-13-2010, 10:30 PM
JohnG JohnG is offline
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Default Re: Rogers:Live and 20/12/16

sweet drum kit and WMP is always classy.......love using my vintage sets live


question on your Rogers early Fullerton Blue Strata 22,13,16...are they 3 or 5 ply...I have one that looks to be a 3 ply....
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Old 11-13-2010, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: Rogers:Live and 20/12/16

5 ply on my kit. Early Ohio shells were 3 ply. Later Ohio and Fullerton were 5 ply, up to the 8 ply XP-8 shells. If you have a 3 ply drum with a Fullerton tag, maybe, it was an old drum that sat around, finally, Rogers put a tag on it. It happens.
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Rogers early Fullerton Blue Strata 22,13,16 w/brass Dynasonic
My first kit, 1983 Ludwig Rocker? (it has the classic lugs and 4ply maple shell) 22,12,13,16 ..now in black oyster pearl. I still have it
Stop Sign USA Gretsch (80's), black nitron jasper shell 22,12,13,16
1995 Fibes Austin,Texas Badge (original owner) 22,10,12,16,18 in natural wood
USA 2007 Rosewood Gretsch 22,13,16 w/12inch 70's Rosewood Gretsch tom
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Old 11-14-2010, 07:45 AM
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Default Re: Rogers:Live and 20/12/16

Beautiful kit!! I love WMP! I have a couple a Rogers 9/72 Fullertons,3ply w rerings.

Cheers, BigE
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Old 11-14-2010, 09:00 AM
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I'm sure it's been talked about on this forum a few times about Fullerton 3 ply shells. My memory is foggy, but, I think a poster on here had a 72 catalog with 3 ply shells. The Rogers book by Rob Cook says differently. Rogers used what they had. Both types are going to sound great. Also, Rogers didn't make their shells.
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Rogers early Fullerton Blue Strata 22,13,16 w/brass Dynasonic
My first kit, 1983 Ludwig Rocker? (it has the classic lugs and 4ply maple shell) 22,12,13,16 ..now in black oyster pearl. I still have it
Stop Sign USA Gretsch (80's), black nitron jasper shell 22,12,13,16
1995 Fibes Austin,Texas Badge (original owner) 22,10,12,16,18 in natural wood
USA 2007 Rosewood Gretsch 22,13,16 w/12inch 70's Rosewood Gretsch tom
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Old 11-14-2010, 09:33 AM
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Default Re: Rogers:Live and 20/12/16

There are quite a few three ply Fullertons out there, even some of the earliest Big R, but not many of those. 9/72 fullertons were three ply. Catalogue says so.
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Old 11-14-2010, 09:47 AM
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There are quite a few three ply Fullertons out there, even some of the earliest Big R, but not many of those. 9/72 fullertons were three ply. Catalogue says so.
Yep, I knew it, you were the poster with the catalog. It had to be the Ploughman!
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Rogers early Fullerton Blue Strata 22,13,16 w/brass Dynasonic
My first kit, 1983 Ludwig Rocker? (it has the classic lugs and 4ply maple shell) 22,12,13,16 ..now in black oyster pearl. I still have it
Stop Sign USA Gretsch (80's), black nitron jasper shell 22,12,13,16
1995 Fibes Austin,Texas Badge (original owner) 22,10,12,16,18 in natural wood
USA 2007 Rosewood Gretsch 22,13,16 w/12inch 70's Rosewood Gretsch tom
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Old 11-14-2010, 10:43 AM
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Yep, I knew it, you were the poster with the catalog. It had to be the Ploughman!
My Fullertons are pre 9/72 tags and all look to be 3 ply. They are more blue than this shot portrays.
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Old 11-14-2010, 11:31 AM
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Super B ... that is a seriously nice looking kit. One of the few WMP wraps that really holds up well through the years. I'm not sure what Rogers did differently, but man, those things are absolutely stunning.
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Old 11-14-2010, 11:35 AM
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My Fullertons are pre 9/72 tags and all look to be 3 ply. They are more blue than this shot portrays.
I love your kit. I want to add a tom to my kit, but..and you know this,too..blue strata is a very rare finish. Sweet skins, John G.

Deja Vu/I'm a moron. Ploughman told me two months ago, on a thread here, that he had a '72 catalog with shells being 3 ply. I will not forget. I always thought it was 5ply up until the 8plys, so, I need to make a note to myself.

Note to self: Just because I have a 5 ply Fullerton, and the Rogers book says it should be 5 ply, there's plenty of real evidence that the same time period shells could be 3 ply.
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Rogers early Fullerton Blue Strata 22,13,16 w/brass Dynasonic
My first kit, 1983 Ludwig Rocker? (it has the classic lugs and 4ply maple shell) 22,12,13,16 ..now in black oyster pearl. I still have it
Stop Sign USA Gretsch (80's), black nitron jasper shell 22,12,13,16
1995 Fibes Austin,Texas Badge (original owner) 22,10,12,16,18 in natural wood
USA 2007 Rosewood Gretsch 22,13,16 w/12inch 70's Rosewood Gretsch tom
 


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