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Old 10-10-2017, 08:27 PM
Chill Chill is offline
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Default Is this a Blaemire or not?

Hey everyone,

About a month ago, I bought a kit off of craigslist that was advertised to be a Ludwig/Blaemire in black oyster pearl finish. The seller wanted $1,000 for it but I got a better deal since I drove from San Diego to Hollywood where he was located. Anyway, the kit has all 60s Ludwig hardware and is definitely made of fiberglass. The only concern is that the interior shells have been painted white, so there's no definitive way of legitimizing whether it's actually a Blaemire kit. I'm wondering if it's a 70s Pearl fiberglass kit?
Regardless, the kit sounds great I just want to know if y'all can help me identify whether it's a true Blaemire based on the edges of the shells.

Thanks!
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Old 10-10-2017, 08:45 PM
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Arrow Re: Is this a Blaemire or not?

From the pic of bearing edge, the color looks to be the flesh tone of Pearl FG.
But Allen did make amber shells.
And green, and pink and candy cane too.
To be sure, one would need to sand off the paint inside the shell to verify the color and FG roving pattern to determine if it is indeed a Blaemire.
If you sand it off and start seeing green,
Most likely, it is a Blaemire.
Also, if it is a Blaemire, there is a label embedded in the FG.
Somewhere on the inside of shell.
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Old 10-10-2017, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: Is this a Blaemire or not?

Allen's label would be inside the shell if it was a Blaemire. The FG color doesn't look right either. No Blaemire labels is a big tell.

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Old 10-10-2017, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: Is this a Blaemire or not?

So I just sanded the shell down a bit and it definitely looks like a Pearl fiberglass shell unfortunately. 😪

Thanks for the help, guys.
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Old 10-10-2017, 09:59 PM
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They're good drums just not Blaemires. Be patient buddy Blaemires don't come up for sale very often, but they do come up once in awhile. Took me years to find my Blaemire kit. Hang in there...

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Old 10-11-2017, 12:11 AM
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Yes sir, that is a Pearl.
But those drum shells are good too.
It is still a very nice custom kit.
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Old 10-11-2017, 11:10 AM
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Considering it's not a Blaemire but has all 60s Ludwig hardware/rail consolette/the wrap is in great condition, what do y'all think the value of this kit is worth?

Also, I found a link to a nice Blaemire bop kit on reverb but the shells aren't green. What do you think?
https://reverb.com/item/5863172-1960...x18-14x14-8x12
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Old 10-11-2017, 01:23 PM
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Considering it's not a Blaemire but has all 60s Ludwig hardware/rail consolette/the wrap is in great condition, what do y'all think the value of this kit is worth?

Also, I found a link to a nice Blaemire bop kit on reverb but the shells aren't green. What do you think?
https://reverb.com/item/5863172-1960...x18-14x14-8x12
I contacted the CL seller when that ad first came out. I told him that he shouldn't advertise it as Blaemire because we couldn't see the tags inside. Its a nice kit though, just not a Blaemire.

The Reverb kit is kind of cool, but it's pieced together, with different generation shells. The seller is a stand up guy. I like raw shells, but that would be a cool wrapped kit. Price is fair.

PM me for a price on a J-M/Blaemire kit, in the same sizes as that BOP kit.
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Old 10-11-2017, 03:26 PM
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Yes sir. Mendozart is correct.
As usual because he is an expert in these Blaemire matters.
The Reverb kit is a mix of shells from different eras.
The yellowy green shells are very early Blaemire.
You can tell by the amount of imperfections in the shells.
Eventually Allen perfected his methods and eliminated most of the brown spots.
In later years, he experimented with different colors of roving.
That is, the Fiberglass cloth/string.
The Reverb 14X14 is a color I call striped candy cane.
Amber/green resin with red roving.
I have a large kit in this color.
See pic of my 16X16.
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Old 10-11-2017, 10:58 PM
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That 16x16 is beautiful Scott!
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