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Old 09-20-2017, 04:38 AM
latzanimal latzanimal is offline
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Default Removing bottom Concert tom ring on Ludwig...

How hard is it to remove the bottom ring on a 6-ply Ludwig concert tom?

Is it glued on or just riveted?

Would it be easier to just cut the shell off?

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Old 09-20-2017, 06:11 AM
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Default Re: Removing bottom Concert tom ring on Ludwig...

Should be glued in. Probably easier to cut the shell off unless the glue has failed a little bit over the years.
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Old 09-20-2017, 03:55 PM
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Default Re: Removing bottom Concert tom ring on Ludwig...

I'm with Jeff... circumcise the bugger! Easiest way. You might have to cut it back anyway if the wood along the bottom rim is FUBAR from the tacks, glue job and your removal attempts.

Off with its head! Start your new bearing edge with clean, sound wood.

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Old 09-20-2017, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: Removing bottom Concert tom ring on Ludwig...

Wasn't there a method in which you placed the drum in a freezer and the ring popped put due to the heat change and the wood contracting? I guess that would cause the same for the top ring as well though.
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Old 09-20-2017, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: Removing bottom Concert tom ring on Ludwig...

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I'm with Jeff... circumcise the bugger! Easiest way. You might have to cut it back anyway if the wood along the bottom rim is FUBAR from the tacks, glue job and your removal attempts.

Off with its head! Start your new bearing edge with clean, sound wood.

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Bearing edge, C-Tom. ....for why ?
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Old 09-20-2017, 10:14 PM
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Default Re: Removing bottom Concert tom ring on Ludwig...

I know that the Vistalite concert toms had bearing edges. I realize that they do not have re-rings. Just wanted to point out that sometimes they used the same shells and simply did not drill/add lower hardware.
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Old 09-21-2017, 03:12 PM
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Bearing edge, C-Tom. ....for why ?
Sorry, I misread... thought you were trying to add a reso for some reason. I've been smoking too much weed!

Move along, nothing to see here....

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Old 09-21-2017, 03:47 PM
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Sorry, I misread... thought you were trying to add a reso for some reason. I've been smoking too much weed!

Move along, nothing to see here....

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Old 09-21-2017, 06:35 PM
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Sorry, I misread... thought you were trying to add a reso for some reason. I've been smoking too much weed!

Move along, nothing to see here....

John
You are good Mr. Shuffle
I thought that making it a double headed tom would be the reason for ring removal also.
I don't think there is a mention in any of the posts of "why" the removal.
Just a "how to do it?
I love the freezer idea.
But it might be disastrous.
A thin blade, rounded chisel.
Maybe cut it in sections carefully with a dremel.
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Old 09-21-2017, 07:05 PM
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You are good Mr. Shuffle
I thought that making it a double headed tom would be the reason for ring removal also.
I don't think there is a mention in any of the posts of "why" the removal.
Just a "how to do it?
I love the freezer idea.
But it might be disastrous.
A thin blade, rounded chisel.
Maybe cut it in sections carefully with a dremel.
You need 'special' blades to cut that stuff, or it shatters into splinters like glass. Has to be done by pro's with the right cutting tools. Precision Drum works with Vistalite and I'm sure any acrylic outfit (RCI?) could do the job fairly cheap. It's just one cut and a bearing edge. (If) that's what he wanted to do which apparently he does not!

Is it 4:20 yet?

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