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Supra Phonic 1965

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Just finished cleaning a Supra Phonic with Keystone badge with R, Serialnumber : 167602

- Year: 1965

- Baseball bat tone control with white felt

- Hoops are COB

- P-83 Snare Throw-off

- Shell should be COA so LM400..? (Ludalloy)

I can´t find any pitting on the shell at all. It´s like coming straight out of the box. Does anyone else have a 1965 supra with no pitting whatsoever ? I have other LM400´s, but they look more ugly (still sound good),but never seen something like this one. Was there a big difference in production line. Did the Chrome hold better on COB than COA ?

Posted on 5 years ago
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I have seen a couple without pitting but would say most have pitting.

That one is in real great shape.

Might be able to see on one of the holes if it is aluminum or brass by the edge of hole.

Some have said to scrap a small shaving off to see if it is brass but seems for that era it would be COA. I think later than that there have been the letter B above the muffler knob also.

Wayne

Posted on 5 years ago
#2
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One could of slipped through

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
Posted on 5 years ago
#3
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Hi

You might want to weigh it, I have a COB Supra and BB COB both are around 8lbs. give or take, weighted on a bathroom scale so how accurate?I have an chrome over aluminum its much lighter.

Posted on 5 years ago
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Your Supraphonic looks great! It looks like the muffler handle is rotated 180 degrees?

It is possible to have a COA shell with no pitting. I had a 1968 Supra that had been kept in a closet for decades, with absolutely NO pitting! There was dirt and some kind of film covering the entire shell, which kept the chrome from flaking. I've got pictures of this drum, but have to re-size them to post on VDF.

-Mark

Posted on 5 years ago
#5
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Very unlikely that's brass that late in the game. Once you hit serial numbers and ball bat mufflers (even red ones) the odds of a brass shell go way down to nearly zero. Anything's possible I suppose but the odds are better that you lucked onto one of those aluminum shells that, for whatever reason, has held onto its plating better than most than an errant brass shell that sat around for a few years (in which case it would have crimped snare beds a rolled edge, and a seam) or a prototype spun brass shell (those seem to date to a later time, closer to 1969/70).

Posted on 5 years ago
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Here are some of the "after" shots of my 1968 Supra. Just a gorgeous drum with no pitting or flaking!

-Mark

Posted on 5 years ago
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Nice drums guys! I have owned several '65 Supras that were 100 percent pit free. Most of the '64 Supras that I have had seemed to have real bad pitting. Possible that Ludwig used a different vendor for plating at different times.

Posted on 5 years ago
#8
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I have two 1964s. One that has no pitting, and one that is pitted badly.

1964 Ludwig Downbeat Black Diamond Pearl (12,13,14,16,20)
1976 Ludwig Stainless Steel "Bop" (12,14,18)
1998 Ayotte "Ray Era" Wood Hoop Copper Sparkle (10,12,14,16,20)
Posted on 5 years ago
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My 67 is like clean as can be but then again it came from mountain hick

Hopes doing well don’t see him no more theses day

April 2nd 1969 scarfed pink champagne holly wood and 65/66 downbeat snare, and , supra same year very minty kit old pies
66/67 downbeat with canister
Super 400 small round knob
1967 super classic obp





once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family.
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