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Old 10-10-2019, 07:26 PM
bfulton bfulton is offline
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Default Nickel over brass-polishing recipe?

I read recently about polishing the NOB hoops and lugs on the Leedy Concert snare project.
My efforts didn’t get terrific results: I cleaned them, and used metal polish and cleaner (“white Diamond”, regular ol’ chrome polish), and it all looked pretty good.
Then I took some pics to post here, and things looked dull, etc. in fact, now that I look at the picture again, it looks like the ‘before’ picture.

So I read about soaking rods, lugs, etc overnight in vinegar, then again overnight in Simple Green.

The vinegar idea is new to me. Does this process sound like it would leave the Nickel plating bright & shining?
This project is my first encounter with NOB. A good time to ask for advice!
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Old 10-10-2019, 07:41 PM
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Default Re: Nickel over brass-polishing recipe?

I have the same question. This bracket is nickel plated something.
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Old 10-10-2019, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: Nickel over brass-polishing recipe?

If a magnet isn’t attracted to it, my bet is brass.

My answer ain’t definitive: Many others here have far more experience than I do!
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Old 10-10-2019, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: Nickel over brass-polishing recipe?

The rims on that drum are Brass. Any plating (in my experience) on brass will continually shine and outlast plating on any other medium (if properly cared for). The tension rods are steel and the lugs are most likely pot metal. They will polish up and shine too, but you may have to spend twice the effort to see the results. I generally submerge dull or dirty parts in 100% Dawn (blue) for at least 24 hours and then scrub them with a soft bristle toothbrush under warm water, then thoroughly dry for polishing (however, I sometimes use a small brass bristle brush for threads). Another helpful trick is to use very sturdy, stiff Q-tips for getting the polish into tight areas, such as decorative trim and corners.
White Vinegar is an acid and is also very aggressive on rust but, 24 hours is the maximum because it will eventually go after the plating too. It's interesting to see the parts giving off bubbles after a few hours as they attack the oxide (rust).

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Old 10-11-2019, 10:52 AM
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Default Re: Nickel over brass-polishing recipe?

The part of the bracket that clamps onto the hoop is magnetic so I assume nickel on steel. The rest of the bracket is not magnetic so I assume nickel on brass. I’m going to give Dawn a try to remove the rust.
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Old 10-22-2019, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: Nickel over brass-polishing recipe?

Nickel does not come out as shiny as chrome, no matter what you use. It smooths out the surface, which enhances the shine, but it still shows the worn away spots that were there before. Don’t be discouraged, it’s the nature of nickel. Some aged nickel is in better condition and will produce better results with a cleaning and polishing. I use Flitz, and get it at Ace Hardware. Sometimes double application produces better results, but always use 100% cotton cloths.
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Old 10-22-2019, 06:52 PM
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I use Cape Cod polishing cloths...

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Old 10-30-2019, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: Nickel over brass-polishing recipe?

I always use a buffing wheel on nickel with a little rubbing compound. You need to be careful not to take the nickel off but it is far better than simple polishing. See attached from my own 38 Leedy. BTW I know the lug box isn't nickel on brass but it came out well!
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Old 10-30-2019, 03:21 PM
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Nicely done!
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Old 12-01-2019, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: Nickel over brass-polishing recipe?

I have real good luck using Flitz green. Do not use vinegar on nickel.
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