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Old 03-15-2012, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: 1965 Slignerland GKD 22"-16"-13"

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I'd say about $600 if the kit is in what barjack describes as reasonably collectible shape (no extra holes, all the correct hardware, minimal scuffs and rusting). I really wouldn't ask more than that for it, especially if you don't have the specific snare that went with the kit.

I know barjack gives a range of $600-$800, but I think $800 is too high (and trust me, there are people who will think that $600 is too high).
$800 is certainly not too high if traded on the national/international market to the right audience and with a kit in the right condition. In my market here in the Pacific Northwest, it's rare to see a reasonably nice Slingerland kit sell for LESS than $800. Those below that pricepoint are generally in need of complete restoration. Heck, a 60's Ludwig or Slingerland kick drum with all its hardware and a decent Superkick batter will sell for $300 alone, a floor tom for $200.

I only have access to the Canadian eBay here at work, but even searching the limited "Completed Listings" section, I'd say that pretty much any good condition tom/floor tom/kick Slingerland set from the 60's and 70's on the site gets at least $600 worth of bids, far more if you factor in what the buyer is shelling out for shipping. The WMP 3 piece below sold for over a grand.


http://www.ebay.ca/itm/VINTAGE-70S-S...item3a71b587e0

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Slingerland-W...item27c3e23feb

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1974-Slingerl...item3cc2b876a4
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Old 03-15-2012, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: 1965 Slignerland GKD 22"-16"-13"

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Hello all,

I was wondering if I could get a price on what my set is worth. It's a 1965 Slingerland Gene Krupa Deluxe in Black Diamond Pearl. The tom's have new fyberskins and new emperor resos. Shells are in very good shape, minor scratches there is also some minor rusting of tensions rods.

Any ideas?
Based on that....
$700 to $900

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Old 03-15-2012, 04:03 PM
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So, the $1,350 I paid for it... Was a bit too much... =\
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Old 03-15-2012, 04:08 PM
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So, the $1,350 I paid for it... Was a bit too much... =
That would have been a good price with a matching single-ply maple snare, a decent price (but a little high) with a matching 3-ply snare, but too much with no snare at all.

Look on the bright side, though, you have a nice kit! Did you just get it, or are you trying to sell it?
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1945 Slingerland RK sparkling gold pearl 26/13/14/16/early 50s 5.5x14 Krupa RK
1967 Slingerland green glass glitter 20/12/14/Hollywood Ace
60s Slingerland 24/13/16/7x14 project
24/13/16/7x14 project RKs
60s 5 & 6.5 Sound Kings
1942 7x14 WMP Krupa RK
1930s Slingerland Universal
1967 Ludwig Hollywood sparkling blue pearl 22/12/13/16
1967 Ludwig Supraphonic 400 & 402
1965 Ludwig Jazz Fest sparkling blue pearl
1923 Ludwig 5x14 NOB
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Old 03-15-2012, 05:26 PM
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So, the $1,350 I paid for it... Was a bit too much... =
It's only too much if you're unhappy with the drums and seriously needed the money elsewhere. Yes, that's $300-$500 higher than the average price for a kit without matching snare, but vintage drums are all about the look and tone YOU want as the drummer or collector. You'll never find your exact kit again, which is why the value and resale price of these drums is so variable. There are no MAPs and MSRPs for old musical instruments.
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Old 03-15-2012, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: 1965 Slignerland GKD 22"-16"-13"

Back before the holidays I was looking at a beautiful 50's WMP Slingy kit a member here was selling. 22-16-13 no snare. They were priced right around $1300 or so if I remember correctly. It was a bit more than I could swing at the time but they sold pretty quickly.

Without getting too far off topic what were kits selling for like 6-7 years ago at the height of the market? I wasn't back into the drums then but very heavy into 60's Ford muscle cars and parts and prices were pretty steep. Things hit rock bottom there but seem to be creeping up a bit slowly. Thoughts?
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Old 03-15-2012, 05:42 PM
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It's only too much if you're unhappy with the drums and seriously needed the money elsewhere. Yes, that's $300-$500 higher than the average price for a kit without matching snare, but vintage drums are all about the look and tone YOU want as the drummer or collector. You'll never find your exact kit again, which is why the value and resale price of these drums is so variable. There are no MAPs and MSRPs for old musical instruments.
Very good point! I have paid more for certain things than I probably should have because you never know how long you may have to wait to find it again or if you ever will. "Value" is a very relative idea. As we've all heard and probably said, "It's value is what the buyer is willing to pay and what the seller is willing to take." If you were smiling like a kid on Christmas when you got that kit home, you absolutely did not pay too much. You got something you wanted before someone else could snatch it up.

Congratulations!

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what were kits selling for like 6-7 years ago at the height of the market? Thoughts?
Good question! I was into drums, but didn't care for vintage at the time.
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1945 Slingerland RK sparkling gold pearl 26/13/14/16/early 50s 5.5x14 Krupa RK
1967 Slingerland green glass glitter 20/12/14/Hollywood Ace
60s Slingerland 24/13/16/7x14 project
24/13/16/7x14 project RKs
60s 5 & 6.5 Sound Kings
1942 7x14 WMP Krupa RK
1930s Slingerland Universal
1967 Ludwig Hollywood sparkling blue pearl 22/12/13/16
1967 Ludwig Supraphonic 400 & 402
1965 Ludwig Jazz Fest sparkling blue pearl
1923 Ludwig 5x14 NOB
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Old 03-15-2012, 09:44 PM
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SlingerLynn is absolutely right is saying that value is a relative thing. It's all a question of how much you would pay for something. In fact, a couple of months ago, I was looking for a BDP mid-sixties Slingerland kit, and I specifically did not want a snare since I already have one. I saw a few for sale at around $1300, and I didn't buy any of them. The price was just too high even though I really wanted them.

I was sure that I'd find something I liked for less, and indeed, I did. I ended up with a nice 1964 Krupa set (sans the snare) in a lovely light blue pearl that has changed color over the years to more a a green-gray pearl. It goes great with my BDP 64 Slingerland snare. How much did I pay for the Krupa toms and bass? $600. I thought that was a fair price, especially given that I had to pay shipping on top of that (and I count the shipping costs into my total cash outlay). I wouldn't have paid more than that, though. I would've just waited for a better deal to come along.

As far as your drums go, I think $1350 was pretty high, especially since they aren't in mint condition. But as others have noted, if they make you happy, then they were worth every penny. If, though, you bought them with the intention of reselling them, it's doubtful that you'll ever make back your investment. There just isn't enough meat left on that bone to pick.

I don't plan on selling them, but I might have to. I'm in an awkward situation on two different options. I've been searching for a 14" floor tom to match the set so I can put the 16" in a cradle and have a little bop set. If i can't do this I may just go for the Gretsch Catalina Jazz.

I have been having many mixed feelings on all of this, mostly because I jumped into my current slingerlands without all of my head.
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Old 03-15-2012, 11:32 PM
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I don't plan on selling them, but I might have to. I'm in an awkward situation on two different options. I've been searching for a 14" floor tom to match the set so I can put the 16" in a cradle and have a little bop set. If i can't do this I may just go for the Gretsch Catalina Jazz.

I have been having many mixed feelings on all of this, mostly because I jumped into my current slingerlands without all of my head.
I play a Catalina Jazz kit at church (Thursday night rehearsal, 2 Sunday morning services and Wednesday evening youth service). I will tell you that I have been very impressed with it, to the point of wanting one myself. I just recently bought a "jazz" configuration Slingerland kit (20,13,14 - I have a 12 coming and the 13 will be sold), but I still want a Catalina because the 18" bass drum, which is impressive for it's size. I know where you're coming from in wanting the smaller bass drum. I would like to now find a mid/late 60s Slingerland 16x18 to turn into a thumping little kick (no alterations of any kind though). However, I'm sure I will still want a Catalina Jazz kit.

You said you don't plan on selling your Slingerland kit, but I want to urge you not to even consider selling it to raise the funds for the Gretsch kit because you will definitely regret getting rid of the Slingerlands. Instead watch feeBay and check Geektar Center's used page. I saw one on GC's site less the snare - which is the least impressive of the drums unless you tune it medium tight and smack rimshots all night, then it sounds amazing - about 2 months ago for $325, and it was in the copper sparkle finish that I really want.

I hope this helps you make your decision, friend! Just do your homework and be patient and you will find what you're looking for - the 14" Slingerland FT may take longer though. I also would suggest you have $400-500 left in your piggy bank if you decide to buy a Catalina kit, because that is when you'll find your Holy Grail...at least I've seen it happen that way many a time.
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Psalm 150:5
1945 Slingerland RK sparkling gold pearl 26/13/14/16/early 50s 5.5x14 Krupa RK
1967 Slingerland green glass glitter 20/12/14/Hollywood Ace
60s Slingerland 24/13/16/7x14 project
24/13/16/7x14 project RKs
60s 5 & 6.5 Sound Kings
1942 7x14 WMP Krupa RK
1930s Slingerland Universal
1967 Ludwig Hollywood sparkling blue pearl 22/12/13/16
1967 Ludwig Supraphonic 400 & 402
1965 Ludwig Jazz Fest sparkling blue pearl
1923 Ludwig 5x14 NOB

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Old 03-15-2012, 11:43 PM
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Again I have to second what SlingerLynn just said--don't sell the Slingerlands for a Catalina Club set. You'd be trading some quality American made vintage drums for a set of drums made in some factory in Asia. I'm not saying that the Catalina Clubs aren't good drums, but they are nowhere near the quality of old Slingerlands.

And besides, you can pick up a used set of Catalina Clubs any time. There are about a zillion of those kits out there for sale pretty cheap.
Hear hear!
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Psalm 150:5
1945 Slingerland RK sparkling gold pearl 26/13/14/16/early 50s 5.5x14 Krupa RK
1967 Slingerland green glass glitter 20/12/14/Hollywood Ace
60s Slingerland 24/13/16/7x14 project
24/13/16/7x14 project RKs
60s 5 & 6.5 Sound Kings
1942 7x14 WMP Krupa RK
1930s Slingerland Universal
1967 Ludwig Hollywood sparkling blue pearl 22/12/13/16
1967 Ludwig Supraphonic 400 & 402
1965 Ludwig Jazz Fest sparkling blue pearl
1923 Ludwig 5x14 NOB
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