Vintage Drum Forum the best vintage drum forum on the Internet - Vintage Drum History - Vintage Drum Questions

Go Back   Vintage Drum Forum > Vintage Cymbals

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-22-2012, 03:09 PM
OddBall OddBall is offline
Vintage Drum Guru
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Boston MA.
Posts: 6,102
Default Paiste People ??

Over on another site these caught my eye,..we`re try`n to find out when, where, and what about it.

The Sonor script logo would sale it in the 50`s !!
It looks like a Nickle or Silver alloy !!
I have no clue where it was made and guessing Germany !!
It appears to have signs of being spun cast !!


How`d I do ?
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC03250.jpg
Views:	122
Size:	63.3 KB
ID:	43638   Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC03249.jpg
Views:	110
Size:	51.9 KB
ID:	43639   Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC03248.jpg
Views:	138
Size:	54.4 KB
ID:	43640   Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC03247.jpg
Views:	114
Size:	50.9 KB
ID:	43641  

__________________
It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-23-2012, 12:07 PM
tdennis tdennis is offline
Vintage Drum Guru
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 744
Default Re: Paiste People ??

Evidently, Paiste "Stambuls" were introduced in 1956 as Nickel Silver cymbals, but upgraded in 1965 to B8.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-24-2012, 12:38 AM
troutstudio troutstudio is offline
Vintage Drum Guru
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 868
Default Re: Paiste People ??

Yes that's correct. That could be an interesting cymbal. Stambul were produced from 1932 to 1965 from NS12 nickel-bronze and as the Stambul 65 made of CuSn8 bronze until about 1967. Made the same as all pro Paistes e.g. hammered with machine assistance/finished by hand. I don't care for the sound of the nickel crashes; rides can be interesting; a china could be cool.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-24-2012, 07:27 AM
Shawn M Shawn M is offline
Vintage Drum Guru
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 917
Default Re: Paiste People ??

its stunningly beautiful
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-24-2012, 08:22 AM
OddBall OddBall is offline
Vintage Drum Guru
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Boston MA.
Posts: 6,102
Default Re: Paiste People ??

Quote:
Originally Posted by troutstudio View Post
Yes that's correct. That could be an interesting cymbal. Stambul were produced from 1932 to 1965 from NS12 nickel-bronze and as the Stambul 65 made of CuSn8 bronze until about 1967. Made the same as all pro Paistes e.g. hammered with machine assistance/finished by hand. I don't care for the sound of the nickel crashes; rides can be interesting; a china could be cool.
A while back I was assured by drumaholic that Stambul has nothing to do with K Zildjian&Co, with that fact in mind I set out to find who this Stambul in the 30`to50`s Sonor cats. is.

Take a look at this page, Do you think this is what Sonor is advertizeing next to K&Co ?? Are Paiste cymbals Turkish ??
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Sonor%20catalogus%201936-1937%20wm%2035.jpg
Views:	146
Size:	102.0 KB
ID:	43725  
__________________
It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-21-2019, 10:21 AM
monkeyboy827 monkeyboy827 is offline
Contributing Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: South Florida
Posts: 62
Default Re: Paiste People ??

The Stambul in the catalog is referring to the location of K Zildjian at the time. It is not referencing the Paiste cymbal line.


The cymbal pictured is from the 50s and is Paiste Stambul China sold through Sonor.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-21-2019, 06:35 PM
OddBall OddBall is offline
Vintage Drum Guru
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Boston MA.
Posts: 6,102
Default Re: Paiste People ??

Quote:
Originally Posted by monkeyboy827 View Post
The Stambul in the catalog is referring to the location of K Zildjian at the time. It is not referencing the Paiste cymbal line.


The cymbal pictured is from the 50s and is Paiste Stambul China sold through Sonor.
Thank you for the info, I really wanted that thing for it's "coolnesss" alone.

Is Stambul the way they say Istanbul in German ?
__________________
It`s a drum,.....Hit It !!

.....76/#XK9207 Phonic Sound Machine D454/D-505 snares !i
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-23-2019, 09:05 AM
monkeyboy827 monkeyboy827 is offline
Contributing Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: South Florida
Posts: 62
Default Re: Paiste People ??

seems to be the case, but "Stambul" is also a neighborhood in Istanbul
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-31-2019, 02:11 PM
bfulton bfulton is offline
Vintage Drum Guru
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 999
Default Re: Paiste People ??

Great find and an interesting history!
What does it sound like? A heavy ‘clang’?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-14-2019, 09:39 PM
zenstat zenstat is offline
Vintage Drum Guru
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 1,662
Default Re: Paiste People ??

It is also not the only use of Stambul. Here is another use of the name Stambul on what claims to be a Made in Turkey cymbal. Diameter 11" and 300g.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	11-300-stambul-stamp.jpg
Views:	22
Size:	58.6 KB
ID:	127526   Click image for larger version

Name:	11-300-stambul-sig.jpg
Views:	17
Size:	50.0 KB
ID:	127527   Click image for larger version

Name:	11-300-stambul-top.jpg
Views:	19
Size:	37.9 KB
ID:	127528   Click image for larger version

Name:	11-300-stambul-bot.jpg
Views:	22
Size:	35.3 KB
ID:	127529  

__________________
For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert, but for every fact there is not necessarily an equal and opposite fact (Thomas Sowell, 1995 in The Vision of the Anointed)

Cymbal Wiki || A one stop shop for all things cymbal
Paiste portal click here || Avedis Zildjian portal click here || K Zildjian Istanbul portal click here
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:55 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2009 VSDwebdesign