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Old 01-28-2018, 10:03 AM
Mr.Toast Mr.Toast is offline
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Default Re: Do you ever feel overwhelmed with all your gear?

None of us should want to leave our loved ones with the burden of liquidating a huge collection of anything, drums, Comic Books, Beanie Babies, or otherwise.
Case in point...My father-in-law is approaching 90 years old and has lived a fascinating but cluttered life. He has never had a "real job." He has supported himself as a sculptor and art trader since the 1940's. For many years he had a studio in Las Vegas, buying, selling, and trading artwork and antiquities. In the early "Rat Pack" days of Vegas he ran around with the likes of Joe Louis, Frank Sinatra, John Wayne, Cary Grant, etc....Anyway, we are now facing the daunting task of trying to sort through his eclectic accumulation of stuff. Thank goodness he is still sharp enough to explain to us what things are valuable, and why. If not, there would have been many valuable items that might have otherwise been sold at a yard sale for peanuts. Something that would not only be a monetary loss for the family, but a sad disrespectful waste of his talented collecting efforts over all those years.
The process has made me realize how important it is to document, in some way, the music gear that I have collected. I have done a brief video catalog of my things for insurance purposes, but I really need to do it again with more detailed narrative about each of the more valuable items.
My wife watches our finances closely, but nearly all of my collection has been purchased using money that is "off the books." Profit from playing poker (I made $9K one month back when online poker was legal) and the buy/trade/refurb/flip gear game. So, she would not have any real idea what I've paid for things, much less know what a 1969 Ludwig Standard Avocado Strata Downbeat kit is worth in the current market.
It is easier than ever to determine a fair price on most things these days by checking sold listing etc. But, as you all know there are some rare drums in our collections that would take some real research to pin down a price on. And when you start to get into the subtleties of drum condition, rarity, originality, etc. Forget about it.

So this is what I suggest we do...

We should, at a minimum, do a detailed video tour of our collections and leave it in a place where family members have access to it.

And, if we want to be even more proactive we should do everything in preparation for selling the items short of boxing them up...take good pictures, write a full detailed description, and set a price range. Then it would be a simple matter for you to post them for sale down the road or by your loved ones if you are no longer on the road so to speak.
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Old 01-28-2018, 11:32 AM
vyacheslav vyacheslav is offline
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Default Re: Do you ever feel overwhelmed with all your gear?

Good points, Mr. Toast.

Luckily I am "only" 45 and I am in very good health. I don't plan on passing on anytime soon, but one never truly knows does one? I don't have any children and all of my siblings are older and don't live in the area. Thank God my ex-wife didn't care about or want any of my drum stuff in our (relatively) amicable divorce agreement back in 2013. I do have a few drumming friends who handle "estate cases" though. They have both handled sizable drum collections here locally and sold things on consignment or by other means. I am good friends with both, and they know where I keep everything just in case.

I have been proactive and although I haven't done a video tour (great idea), I do have everything documented on a spreadsheet that I constantly keep updated. Everything is accounted for, down to the last pair of sticks. Every kit, what heads are on it, what hoops are on it, what throne goes with it etc., all of which I have described with brand names, and when possible, model numbers and serial numbers. I need to do that for myself anyway, because it makes it easier when I can look at things "at a glance". I have multiple copies of this spreadsheet. One on each computer I have, and I also keep it on a flash drive as well, and I update them all regularly.

To echo Mr. Toast, regardless of how large or small our collections might be, it is important to document everything in some manner, be it a video, or a spreadsheet, word document, something. I do like the idea of making a video, however I also think that keeping a spreadsheet is a good idea too, and the spreadsheet is more easily updated if you buy or sell something.
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Old 01-28-2018, 12:45 PM
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I don't have nearly as many kits anymore....and I'm STILL overwhelmed by having too much. I don't gig anymore and these things are just taking up space. I would sell the rest of it (except for maybe one kit), but I'd never get what I feel would be a fair price....because I have stuff that would never (in a million years) be able to be replaced -should I ever change my mind down the road....Maybe some Japanese collector or someone like that would make me an offer I couldn't refuse....but, barring that, I'll probably just die with what I have and let someone else sort it all out afterwards!
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Old 01-28-2018, 12:48 PM
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Good idea, Mr. Toast.
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Old 01-28-2018, 01:06 PM
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Greetings,

I have collected a lot of kits over the last dozen years or so. I'm up to 30 total kits (not all of them are vintage). It got to the point where I am renting a climate controlled storage unit and I am keeping most everything in there, because more than half of my basement was just stacks and stacks and stacks of (cased) drums. I have a hardware case with matching hardware for each kit (all the hardware matches each other, not necessarily the brand of drums). Much of my hardware is vintage. I also have a set of cymbals I use for each kit kept in a hard case for each specific kit (I have nearly 300 cymbals).

I was at my storage unit tonight, tying to organize it and use space more efficiently and no matter what I did, it was still super tight space wise. It got to a point where I said to myself: "Some of this stuff has got to go! Why do I need all this stuff anyway?"

I know most of you can empathize with my plight (I know your wives certainly could!) I obviously don't need 30 kits and 300 cymbals, not to mention 30 sets of hardware and cases for everything.

I'm really thinking about downsizing quite a bit, but at the same time, I love all my kits, just as you all do too. How do I decide what stays and what goes? How do I make the "tough" decisions about what I part with? How do I prevent "seller's remorse?"

I am probably stating the obvious, but some things I will base my decisions on are sizes/configurations (duplicates I already have or unique configurations you don't see), Commonness or rareness of wrap/finish, commonness/rareness of actual drums, what sentimental value they hold to me (that's a tough one to answer), etc.

I am curious to see how all of you approach this situation. What is your thought process? How do you make the "tough" decisions? When did you reach your "Gear Epiphany", when you decided enough was enough and some of it had to go?

Thanks for your help. I know most of us can identify with this situation. If we were all saxophone players, where it was very easy to store/display our gear without taking up much space, would we still feel the same way about needing to part with some things?

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Well, if you keeping a bunch of them in an offsite storage location maybe you really don't need them and might consider selling them. Drums are meant to be played, not just looked at. And if you have a significant amount of your collection that is not being played or even looked at then perhaps it's time to divest yourself.
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Old 01-28-2018, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: Do you ever feel overwhelmed with all your gear?

Cull the herd?
Get rid of the orphans.
Get rid of the duplicates.
Sets must be born together, or if not born together, used for paying gigs.
Keep a couple or three sets of hardware, sell the rest. You'll make lots of dough selling hardware piece by piece for years.....
Have few enough sets to get rid of the storage space.
Perhaps collect only one brand of drum and cymbal, or, only have one set of drums and cymbals of any brand.
Once you start to get rid of stuff for money, you'l find it's not so bad.
Got any cool Ludwig stuff for sale?
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Old 01-28-2018, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: Do you ever feel overwhelmed with all your gear?

I only get overwhelmed when i've auditions &i can't appear&seem to find the disclipline&motivation to practice or if i miss out on a gig the exact&precise same feelings,
&I look at my cymbals&drums &think to myself waste of money,
I could've gone overseas etc for what it owes me&what i paid! .
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Old 01-28-2018, 09:46 PM
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Cull the herd?
Get rid of the orphans.
Get rid of the duplicates.
Sets must be born together, or if not born together, used for paying gigs.
Keep a couple or three sets of hardware, sell the rest. You'll make lots of dough selling hardware piece by piece for years.....
Have few enough sets to get rid of the storage space.
Perhaps collect only one brand of drum and cymbal, or, only have one set of drums and cymbals of any brand.
Once you start to get rid of stuff for money, you'l find it's not so bad.
Got any cool Ludwig stuff for sale?
Ha! That's awesome.

Yeah, whats for sale?
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Old 02-14-2018, 12:25 AM
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Default Re: Do you ever feel overwhelmed with all your gear?

Yes sometimes I suppose I do feel overwhelmed
I think all avid collectors face the same issues
as our list of gear gets longer and our years left above ground grow shorter
I see my bunch as a retirement plan of course one never knows
I personally find it sort of a buzz kill to dwell on it too much
My space doubles as both my man cave/ practice space as well as storage
since it is quite a large space I am lucky in that I can try and display the kits somewhat
and since the rent on the space is the same empty or full ..I decided to go more toward full
one of the most enjoyable aspects to my drum collecting is the relaxation of loving up on these drums
and sharing here on the board
As for putting a possible burden on my loved ones
I wish someone would leave me a giant room full of collectable drum kits

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Old 02-14-2018, 03:07 PM
markrocks68 markrocks68 is offline
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Default Re: Do you ever feel overwhelmed with all your gear?

I've got 36 kits as of now & have 4 more to add.
So if anyone has a Fiesta or Capri Pearl, Peacock Sparkle or the infamous Oyster Pink, please let me know. Leedy, Slingys, Ludwigs, all good.
And if you are near Southern CA even better.
Thanks!
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