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Old 02-07-2018, 10:02 PM
K.O. K.O. is offline
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Hi Hat: WFL Speed King. Any idea what this is from?

So does it look like the original set was a base, snare, maybe Hi Hat, followed by a floor tom and then a Club Date 13" Tom.


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1121 Hi-Hat would be from roughly 1963 or before. It was replaced by the Spur-lock model 1123 around mid/late 1963 although surely some of the older models were still available for sale in music stores for at least a couple of years following the transition.

Your order of acquisition pre-supposes that all the drums were purchased new which wasn't necessarily the case. That could explain the Club Date too if the owner happened onto a good deal on a drum that was either slightly used or perhaps had languished in a store's stock for a while. WMP was a very popular wrap at the time (almost the standard wrap for drums) and finding used or new single examples in music stores wouldn't have been difficult.

Really no way of ever knowing but it does look to be a set that was put together in the period and not a recently pieced together set (although, again, no way of truly knowing the exact history unless you have first hand knowledge).

Electronic drums are fun to play, they sound perfect in headphones and don't disturb the family or neighbors. I have a couple of sets and while they are fun they do not replace the real thing in the situations I need drums for. If I were you with a cool vintage set like that I'd try to find a decent used electronic set that I could afford ( you don't really need top of the line Rolands to jam in the basement) without selling these drums...because, if playing the electronic set rekindles your interest in drumming to the degree that you may get serious about it again, you'll deeply regret having sold such a cool vintage set.
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Old 02-07-2018, 11:09 PM
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1121 Hi-Hat would be from roughly 1963 or before. It was replaced by the Spur-lock model 1123 around mid/late 1963 although surely some of the older models were still available for sale in music stores for at least a couple of years following the transition.

Your order of acquisition pre-supposes that all the drums were purchased new which wasn't necessarily the case. That could explain the Club Date too if the owner happened onto a good deal on a drum that was either slightly used or perhaps had languished in a store's stock for a while. WMP was a very popular wrap at the time (almost the standard wrap for drums) and finding used or new single examples in music stores wouldn't have been difficult.

Really no way of ever knowing but it does look to be a set that was put together in the period and not a recently pieced together set (although, again, no way of truly knowing the exact history unless you have first hand knowledge).

Electronic drums are fun to play, they sound perfect in headphones and don't disturb the family or neighbors. I have a couple of sets and while they are fun they do not replace the real thing in the situations I need drums for. If I were you with a cool vintage set like that I'd try to find a decent used electronic set that I could afford ( you don't really need top of the line Rolands to jam in the basement) without selling these drums...because, if playing the electronic set rekindles your interest in drumming to the degree that you may get serious about it again, you'll deeply regret having sold such a cool vintage set.
Excellent advice here!
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Old 02-07-2018, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: Help with value of my Ludwig Set

Your Ludwig hi hat appears to be a standard model from circa 1965...or at least it appears to be identical to the hi hat I've owned since 1965.
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Old 02-08-2018, 12:38 AM
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1121 Hi-Hat would be from roughly 1963 or before. It was replaced by the Spur-lock model 1123 around mid/late 1963 although surely some of the older models were still available for sale in music stores for at least a couple of years following the transition.

Your order of acquisition pre-supposes that all the drums were purchased new which wasn't necessarily the case. That could explain the Club Date too if the owner happened onto a good deal on a drum that was either slightly used or perhaps had languished in a store's stock for a while. WMP was a very popular wrap at the time (almost the standard wrap for drums) and finding used or new single examples in music stores wouldn't have been difficult.

Really no way of ever knowing but it does look to be a set that was put together in the period and not a recently pieced together set (although, again, no way of truly knowing the exact history unless you have first hand knowledge).

Electronic drums are fun to play, they sound perfect in headphones and don't disturb the family or neighbors. I have a couple of sets and while they are fun they do not replace the real thing in the situations I need drums for. If I were you with a cool vintage set like that I'd try to find a decent used electronic set that I could afford ( you don't really need top of the line Rolands to jam in the basement) without selling these drums...because, if playing the electronic set rekindles your interest in drumming to the degree that you may get serious about it again, you'll deeply regret having sold such a cool vintage set.

Thanks for the information and advice. You really have me thinking about not selling and getting a cheaper electron set. What do you think of the Roland TD-11KV? Was going to buy the TD-25KV.
As for the history of the set, my parents bought it off my drum instructor at the time about 1969. Iíve owned it 47 years.

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Old 02-12-2018, 11:28 AM
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47 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

...and how long have the wife and kids been a part of your life?




Just bustin your cow bells...I have too many friends that have opted for life with cats and Tinder dates, if e-drums are the only way for you to keep playing on the regular while avoiding speed dating, hair plugs, and gym memberships, then I will reluctantly trade you a nice used set of Rock Band pads for your kit.
Another option to consider...get drum triggers and a control module for your vintage kit. You can make all the dorky e-drum sounds you want at any sound level you want inside your headphones, with the added benefit of not being able to hear your wife and kids complaining about the noise...problem solved...you're welcome.
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Old 02-13-2018, 12:41 PM
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47 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

...and how long have the wife and kids been a part of your life?

Another option to consider...get drum triggers and a control module for your vintage kit. You can make all the dorky e-drum sounds you want at any sound level you want inside your headphones, with the added benefit of not being able to hear your wife and kids complaining about the noise...problem solved...you're welcome.
Luckily a long time too, LOL.

I am considering the keep the drums and getting a Yamaha EAD10. And well, wife and dog are out of luck on the noise.

But then again what are the chances an old guy like me will need the real drum kit for a gig. I wish!
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Old 02-13-2018, 05:10 PM
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Yessssssssssssssss! Your soul is saved!

I have no idea what an AED10 is, but I know what an AED is and that is a good thing to have around for all of us old guys!

BTW-Gigging is not the only reason to have a real kit, some of my most satisfying moments have been playing with myself in my basement. Wait, let me re-phrase that...
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Old 02-13-2018, 07:14 PM
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Check out the Yamaha AED 10. It basically mic's you set with one pickup and lets you change the sound of your kit in you headphones. The thing I like most is it mixes your drums with the tunes yours playing.
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Old 02-13-2018, 11:02 PM
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Wow, that AED 10 looks like a fun gadget! I want one. Is $499 the best price you've seen?
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Old 02-14-2018, 06:56 PM
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Wow, that AED 10 looks like a fun gadget! I want one. Is $499 the best price you've seen?
Yeah the best I've seen is $499. Hope it will come down soon or I may just have to go buy one.
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