Vintage Drum Forum the best vintage drum forum on the Internet - Vintage Drum History - Vintage Drum Questions

Go Back   Vintage Drum Forum > For Sale

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 04-11-2018, 01:33 PM
J!m J!m is offline
Vintage Drum Guru
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: North Haven, CT
Posts: 1,274
Default Re: But is it selling?

Any of this sort of "collector" stuff is like stocks: you don't loose a dime unless you sell for less than yoiur investment.

If you are in it for the money, you need to understand the market, and ride the waves.

I'm in it for the drums, and always looking to find that piece or drum to scratch an itch. I got a nice Sonor snare a couple years ago, made it beautiful, tuned it up, and decided it wasn't for me in about a half hour. I turned it around and broke even on it. Maybe I could have priced it higher, and sat on it for a few months (or longer) but that's not what it's all about for me.

Like most guys on here, I'd rather give a drum to a needy kid who wants to learn, but doesn't have the means to get one, than to deal with the poopie-heads on eBay.
__________________
Cobalt Blue Yamaha Recording Custom 20b-22b-8-10-12-13-15-16f-18f
Red Ripple '70's Yamaha D-20 20b-12-14f
Piano Black Yamaha Recording Custom Be-Bop kit 18b-10-14f
Snares:
Yamaha COS SDM5; Yamaha Cobalt Blue 5-1/2x14; Gretsch round badge WMP; 1972 Ludwig Acrolite; 1978 Ludwig Super Senditive; Cobalt Blue one-off Montineri; Yamaha Oak (6X13!); DW collectors 5-1/2X14 maple; cheap 3.5X13 brass piccolo
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-11-2018, 02:48 PM
ATeam ATeam is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 33
Default Re: But is it selling?

Interesting topic. I'm curious how many younger 20/30-somethings are entering the vintage drum market today, as opposed to twenty, thirty, forty years ago. And how many older guys who were once very active are selling and retiring now? And how do they correlate and affect the market? As for the younger generations, what is their idea of "vintage"?

Kids who grew up in the 90's learned to play on Pearl Exports and CB700's, and watched their heroes play DW Collectors and Pearl Masters kits. The old jazz and classic rock greats who played the big name American kits were decades before their time. Sure there is still some appreciation, but it's not the same level of nostalgia as the older guys who grew up playing these drums and actually saw Ringo play his Oyster Black Pearl Downbeats on Ed Sullivan.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-11-2018, 03:46 PM
jccabinets jccabinets is offline
Vintage Drum Guru
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 5,972
Default Re: But is it selling?

I have always said that my drums will take me and my wife to Europe someday. But now as it gets closer to actually selling them and collecting the money for the trip I wonder how will this go. I have 15 kits, three I would keep the others I sell. So selling 12 drum sets seems like a lot of work and would take a ton of time to do it. Im thinking I will have to sell very cheep in order to move that many drums in a short period of time, plus I dont want to ship which creates another problem. Thought about having a weekend sale right here at the shop but I cant see enough local guys coming or expect people to travel much of a distance for the sale.
So to sum it up, I have drums to sell (eventually) but am worried if I will get enough money for them.
__________________

Thank you!
Jeff C

"Enjoy every sandwich" Warren Zevon
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-11-2018, 06:39 PM
ludwigold ludwigold is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 17
Default Re: But is it selling?

Quote:
Originally Posted by wayne View Post
This is the for sale section, but I,ve seen it all over the place that very little is selling these days.
I know its a buyers market, but come on..some deals are too good to pass up!..This would not be happening 15-20 years ago that's for sure.

So, do we all have enough gear stock piled, we just cant afford anymore?...not enough room for anything?...prices are crazy on desirable gear?...etc

OR...Is the thrill of the hunt not what it used to be. You realize its all just stuff, like old trophies collecting dust in the basement, and what you thought was the "forever" drum or cymbal, simply isin't after all. Its just a drum and if you are honest about it, is it really "that special"?

You play it once a month, maybe, then put it away, but does that treasure continue to justify what you paid for it?
I don't buy vintage gear without looking at it in person. Unfortunately, there's a bunch of people out there that have tried to cash in with vintage drums over the last 10 years or so. A lot of these people don't even play. Most of the overpriced kits I see online have been repaired, modified, or changed in some way. Also, you can't inspect the edges, or see if the shells might be out of round. I laugh when I see these crazy prices, and the seller's description shows those of us in the know, that they really don't know what their talking about. I have what I have, and I am thankful for that. From time to time I buy from people I know or from reputable seller's I've been dealing with for years. I always ask for the right to return any item. Like most expensive hobbies, newbies get involved with vintage drums, and get burnt once. Then they leave the hobby. I think the pricing has become out of reach for most people to get into, or continue to build their collection. Just my thoughts and opinion.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-11-2018, 09:36 PM
hawthorne hawthorne is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 24
Default Re: But is it selling?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ATeam View Post
Interesting topic. I'm curious how many younger 20/30-somethings are entering the vintage drum market today, as opposed to twenty, thirty, forty years ago. And how many older guys who were once very active are selling and retiring now? And how do they correlate and affect the market? As for the younger generations, what is their idea of "vintage"?

Kids who grew up in the 90's learned to play on Pearl Exports and CB700's, and watched their heroes play DW Collectors and Pearl Masters kits. The old jazz and classic rock greats who played the big name American kits were decades before their time. Sure there is still some appreciation, but it's not the same level of nostalgia as the older guys who grew up playing these drums and actually saw Ringo play his Oyster Black Pearl Downbeats on Ed Sullivan.
Iím 31 and got into vintage stuff in my late 20s. I never saw the marker when it was booming, so I donít know if I have a relevant opinion as to if itís good or bad. Iím noticing more younger guys get into vintage gear which is great.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 04-12-2018, 07:39 AM
idrum4fun idrum4fun is offline
Vintage Drum Guru
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,878
Default Re: But is it selling?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jccabinets View Post
I have always said that my drums will take me and my wife to Europe someday. But now as it gets closer to actually selling them and collecting the money for the trip I wonder how will this go. I have 15 kits, three I would keep the others I sell. So selling 12 drum sets seems like a lot of work and would take a ton of time to do it. Im thinking I will have to sell very cheep in order to move that many drums in a short period of time, plus I dont want to ship which creates another problem. Thought about having a weekend sale right here at the shop but I cant see enough local guys coming or expect people to travel much of a distance for the sale.
So to sum it up, I have drums to sell (eventually) but am worried if I will get enough money for them.
JC! Other than traveling to Europe, I'm in your same position! Like you, I have too many extra snare drums and kits and selling will take work and time. Even though I'm in SoCal, I don't think I could get enough interested buyers to come over and purchase what I have to offer. Then again, you never know! I guess it's just a matter of trying. We'll see!

-Mark
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 04-12-2018, 07:42 AM
jaghog jaghog is offline
Vintage Drum Guru
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: chitown
Posts: 4,391
Default Re: But is it selling?

I have soooo much vintage gear , a recreation of 60 ‘s and early 70’s bands from amps to guitars I have no more room besides all the good stuff is gone or in one of your collection lol
__________________
1968 pink champagne Ludwig holly wood With 18 ft and downbeat snare, and jazz fest, supra
1961 cob super classic 400
some nice bronze pies
Sweet 1964 wmp super Classic with matching. Jazz
1967 obp holly wood




once the brass ceases to glitter, and the drum looses its luster, and the stage remains dark, all you have left is the timbre of family. E- bay gd1825
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 04-12-2018, 08:39 AM
snurf snurf is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 351
Default Re: But is it selling?

Instead traveling to Europe all your drums should travel to Europe.

Most of You here is afraid to ship the drums overseas, it doesn't hurt and enlarges your possibilities for sale. Yes, you have to put some efforts (good packing, filling customs declaration) but it pays off. I sold every vintage set or snare I bought in USA.

Find best shipping rates company and you won.
__________________
---------------------
In case of deal with johnnyringo:
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/show...80&postcount=1
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 04-12-2018, 09:09 AM
johnnyringo johnnyringo is online now
Vintage Drum Guru
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 3,594
Default Re: But is it selling?

Quote:
Originally Posted by CTMichaelV View Post
I agree in part to most of the comments. There are some deals but you do need to hunt for them. I am getting pretty tired of the "rare" drums on the bay when there are 20 of the identical drum and all going for unrealistic prices. I have tried to make deals with some sellers to have the bay block me for a week for reaching out to sellers trying to get a fair price, even though I would buy through the bay. I am like Mr Layton where I love finding the gem in the rough and bringing it back to life. I haven't started to sell any yet but that will happen in time. Maybe it's the uncertInty in the economy with everything taking place with Prez T that's making people a little skittering with free cash.
But in the long run, I do this because I love vintage drums and enjoy playing and looking at them.
Keep the faith my brothers
Michael
I thought there were no politics allowed, but since the cat is out of the bag.
This has been happening long before our new President took office. I don't know what source your getting your information from, but I suggest you dig a bit deeper into the state of our present economy or move to Texas, we are doing just fine. There's a drum shop here that's been in business for a good twenty years, the owner told me 2017 was his best year in sales, go figure.
This has nothing to do with who's in charge. I've bought and sold many kits over the years and most of the buyers I've come across are younger guys with little cash flow. I believe a lot of sellers think their kits are worth more than they actually are and are unwilling to budge on their price. This has happened to me several times, a guy has a decent vintage kit, but it has a few issues and even after the seller acknowledges the issues, they refuse to reduce their price, so no sale. But, that's only part of the reason, there are just too many drums out there and not enough drummers with tons of cash. I believe it's that simple.

Last edited by johnnyringo; 04-12-2018 at 10:45 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 04-12-2018, 09:34 AM
larryz larryz is offline
Vintage Drum Guru
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Western PA
Posts: 2,073
Default Re: But is it selling?

Shipping a drum kit is worse than doing your annual tax return.
__________________
The greatest gift you can give your family and the world is a healthy you. - Joyce Meyer
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2009 VSDwebdesign