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Old 04-03-2019, 08:51 PM
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Ha, great chops, great stamina, great career, I suppose there's nothing that will impress guys like you. I've heard similiar complaints about Buddy Rich, who the heck do you like?
Not you, that's for sure, in fact, you're going on my Ignore List permanently as of this moment.

But since you asked: Ringo Starr, Charlie Watts, Keith Moon, Johny Barbata, Jerry Edmonton, Hal Blaine, Kenny Aronoff, Jim Keltner, Kenney Jones, Bobby Elliott, Levon Helm, Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa, Ed Shaughnessy, Carter Beauford, etc. Too many to list.

You want to know what impresses, huh? A drummer who plays MUSIC. A drummer who plays great time, who has a great feel, plays for the song, and doesn't need unnecessary displays of chops to get his or her point across. Maybe you're the type who is impressed by these showy solos, but I'm not, and after 55 years as a working drummer, music journalist and author, I have a pretty set idea of what a real drummer should and shouldn't be.

I used to see guys like you at the Modern Drummer Festival every year, going crazy over the latest flavor of the month drummer and his extended solos. It got so the only performances I enjoyed were the drummers who brought bands with them.

So, knock yourself out with your Carl Palmer solos. You're finished in my book.
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Old 04-03-2019, 10:50 PM
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Not you, that's for sure, in fact, you're going on my Ignore List permanently as of this moment.

But since you asked: Ringo Starr, Charlie Watts, Keith Moon, Johny Barbata, Jerry Edmonton, Hal Blaine, Kenny Aronoff, Jim Keltner, Kenney Jones, Bobby Elliott, Levon Helm, Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa, Ed Shaughnessy, Carter Beauford, etc. Too many to list.

You want to know what impresses, huh? A drummer who plays MUSIC. A drummer who plays great time, who has a great feel, plays for the song, and doesn't need unnecessary displays of chops to get his or her point across. Maybe you're the type who is impressed by these showy solos, but I'm not, and after 55 years as a working drummer, music journalist and author, I have a pretty set idea of what a real drummer should and shouldn't be.

I used to see guys like you at the Modern Drummer Festival every year, going crazy over the latest flavor of the month drummer and his extended solos. It got so the only performances I enjoyed were the drummers who brought bands with them.

So, knock yourself out with your Carl Palmer solos. You're finished in my book.
I love Ringo and groove guys like Steve Jordon. I'm not all about how fast or flashy a drummer is, but guys like Palmer are fun to watch and they can do things we mere mortals can only dream about. Get over yourself.
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Old 04-04-2019, 07:31 AM
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I have NO serious jealousy issues , pal. You're out of line.

I admit Carl has great chops, but solos like that are nothing more than pointless displays of drumming gymnastics.

You want to listen to ****e like that, then knock yourself out.
I`m not sure you're jealous, Who knows, but I can see maybe you just don't get it.

After you hit all the toms, beat all the beats, rolled all the rolls diddled all the paradiddles, stepped all the footboards and fanned all the fans,....

....you end up doing that ****. It's fun , ...I do it all the time. Only thing I don't like is being made fun of for it.
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Old 04-04-2019, 09:47 AM
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That's a good point Oddball, if you got it, flaunt it. As much as I love Ringo and the groove guys, they don't have the skill level to do what guys like Palmer can do. I'm sure Palmer put a lot of hours refining his craft, why would anyone knock hard work? I applaud those guys.
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Old 04-04-2019, 12:01 PM
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That's a good point Oddball, if you got it, flaunt it. As much as I love Ringo and the groove guys, they don't have the skill level to do what guys like Palmer can do. I'm sure Palmer put a lot of hours refining his craft, why would anyone knock hard work? I applaud those guys.
4 years ago I was like him kinda, it was annoying to me. Now I can't make enough time for it. It`s just like Buddy Rich said, there`s no apex,.....it`s endless and you can do it forever.

It is a skill beyond skills. After three years of it, I'm down to dropping the sticks only a hundred times a week. I've never dropped sticks so much or said "It's impossible" more in any other time of my life.
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Old 04-04-2019, 12:08 PM
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80% of the time you are not holding the sticks, you are more like trapping a floating stick from getting away. Very hard sh*t to do. But I`ll get there.
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Old 04-04-2019, 08:15 PM
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In my mind, I can play anything....but my hands and feet don't take orders from anyone! So somewhere in between Buddy Rich and Ted Poor is me....Mr. Middle Income.
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Old 04-04-2019, 08:18 PM
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There really IS a Ted Poor by the way....great player...in MY opinion! heh heh ')
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Old 04-04-2019, 10:22 PM
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I never heard of him, but I like his playing.
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Old 04-30-2019, 07:39 PM
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I always liked the Tarkus LP. I saw Carl on the ELP Nrain Salad Surgery tour in Nashville. He had that massive stainless steel Octaplus set with the two large gongs with the Dragon etched into them. I added concert toms to my set that year to fill out my Hollywood set to a Octoplus set.
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