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Old 10-09-2009, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: "Is my Ludwig Brass??"-Lets Clear this up

Now lets show some pictures of supra-phonics!
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Old 10-10-2009, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: "Is my Ludwig Brass??"-Lets Clear this up

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hey bill, did all the 60's cob have a welded seam?
Except for that one B stamp I saw from the late 60's, every single 60's COB I've seen had a weld seam. WFL, Transition Badge, and Preserial Keystone Badge COB shells are all welded vertically. Some of the seams can be harder to find than others, but they're there.
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Old 10-10-2009, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: "Is my Ludwig Brass??"-Lets Clear this up

i just purchased one not to long ago...it has the pre serial badge, round muffler, crimped snare beds, inward flange on the inside of the shell (after the bearing edge)... i even did the scratch test. it all seems to indicate a cob...but no seam from which i could see.
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Old 10-10-2009, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: "Is my Ludwig Brass??"-Lets Clear this up

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i just purchased one not to long ago...it has the pre serial badge, round muffler, crimped snare beds, inward flange on the inside of the shell (after the bearing edge)... i even did the scratch test. it all seems to indicate a cob...but no seam from which i could see.
Then that would mean its an early Supraphonic....aluminum shell. No seam, not brass for the Keystone badge era.
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Old 10-10-2009, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: "Is my Ludwig Brass??"-Lets Clear this up

but the scratch test shows it to be brass under neath the chrome. it would still be aluminum?
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Old 10-10-2009, 04:38 PM
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but the scratch test shows it to be brass under neath the chrome. it would still be aluminum?
You are probably seeing the copper plating under the chrome and nickel plating. If there is no seam and it is a 60's drum it is aluminum. The spun brass shells didn't come out until the late 70's.
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Old 10-10-2009, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: "Is my Ludwig Brass??"-Lets Clear this up

so the seam is that visible? i may do another scratch test. it's got the weight 8.5lb.
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Old 10-10-2009, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: "Is my Ludwig Brass??"-Lets Clear this up

That's the exact weight of my preserial COB. I've never heard of a pre-serial drum with a dial muffler being aluminum, but there's a first for everything. I have a Transition badge COB, and the weld is very hard to find...it looks like they sanded or filed it somehow, and you can see horizontal lines running up and down the very slight vertical seam. Can you post pics of the interior?
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Old 10-10-2009, 06:42 PM
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Default Re: "Is my Ludwig Brass??"-Lets Clear this up

hey bill...just found 2 of the tinniest weld marks above and below the center bead (in line with the lug holes). also found those horizontal lines running down into the bearing edge and on the flanged inward part of the shell.

cob???
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Old 10-12-2009, 12:07 PM
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Sounds like it could be!
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