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View Poll Results: What Wrap would you do on these 1969 Luddy Shells
Mod Orange 17 29.82%
Citrus Mod 14 24.56%
Psychedelic Red 13 22.81%
Oyster black Pearl (Ringo's fav) 7 12.28%
Blue sparkle (most sold back then) 8 14.04%
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Old 11-07-2010, 10:51 AM
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Default Converting Ludwig Standard to Luddy Classic

I have a droid x phone. It has a craigslist app the tells me when ever anyone posts an ad with the word drum or drums in it. Lots of ads for guitar hero drums, 55 gallon drums, brake drums and our kind of drums. Last Friday it notified me of a drum set at a garage sale. I was about to go to the jam, but I emailed asking what kind of drums they were. I got up the next morn and checked my email and there it was. They emailed me back "1962 Ludwig's" I was so excited I was rushing around to get dressed and a cup of coffee. I sped all the way over there and there they were piled out in the yard. They were actually 1969 3 ply Ludwig standard 5 piece 14-12-13-16-22. They had been re-wrapped in yellow cortex. The wrap was warped and bubbling up all over all the shells. The snare has a few broken lugs, A pair of 14" zildjian hi hats and a 20" slingy bass drum were also included for the $75 I paid. After a week of deliberation I have decided to convert these to classic lugs and spurs and tom holders and ft leg brackets.
I am leaning toward covering the shells in the Mod orange from Jammin Sam's.
I checked and I already have 50 classic lugs in stock, and a set of large curved spurs and numerous items I will need for this. I also have 3 B/O badges I think are around 1979 so im not sure about the badge situation yet.
I removed one shell so far and plan on removing the rest today. I have a summerization at the end of this restoration thread if you care to look. Thanks!
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1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
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Old 11-08-2010, 08:48 AM
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Default Re: Converting Ludwig Standard to Luddy Classic

I have already noticed 1 thing different about these standard shells. The bass drum spur holes are much closer together than the classic curved spur holes. I'll have to plug the old holes and re drill for the classic large curved spurs. Of course the new wrap will cover the holes on the outside, but i will have to figure out how to match the grey speckled acoustical finish on the inside of the shells.
Has anyone ever tried to match the granitone acoustical coating? I know Lowe's sells paint that looks similar.
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1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:59 AM
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Default Re: Converting Ludwig Standard to Luddy Classic

see my thread at ghostnote about granitone. the plasticote was the closest i could find, but there are variations in ludwig's paint as well as some variation can to can with these speckle type finishes.

be sure to use a medium light grey base under the stone finish.
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Old 11-08-2010, 11:24 AM
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Default Re: Converting Ludwig Standard to Luddy Classic

I use the one they sell at MalMart, I think the American Accents, but the one in the middle looks to be a better match. This stuff really is amazing to work with.
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Old 11-08-2010, 01:52 PM
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I just finished removing the old wrinkled up wrap off of my shells. They were glued, but just in spots and the seams were glued pretty good. A few little pieces of ply came off and stuck to the wrap. I am wondering if I should remove them from the wrap and glue tham back into place, or if wood filler would be just as good. They are very minute and very few. All in all the wrap came off extremly easy, with the help off my industrial heat gun.
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1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
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Old 11-08-2010, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: Converting Ludwig Standard to Luddy Classic

if you are rewrapping, for small areas, durhams rock hard water putty or bondo are good fillers. I prefer the stronger properties of the epoxy filler i used in the thread referred to above for larger repairs.
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Old 11-08-2010, 04:57 PM
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Theses shells have woodgrain looking stripes going all the way areound the shell. The stripes look painted on. Except On the bass drum shell there was a 1/2" strip of the original strata pearl wrap at the seam. Apparently when the original wrap was removed, it left behind the stripes from the strata pearl wrap. Look closly at the pics and see the wrap and the stripes. They continue past the wrap. I was confused untill I saw the 1/2" of the original wrap.
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1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
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Old 11-08-2010, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: Converting Ludwig Standard to Luddy Classic

I tried accessing that thread, but I am not a member of that forum. I have used plenty of bondo at my shop. I was leaning tward just using wood filler.
Bondo might work better. Id hate for the filler I used to jar loose if the drums ever get played. Now is definatly time to address this issue. Maybe just plain ole expoy would be best. Right Jonn?

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if you are rewrapping, for small areas, durhams rock hard water putty or bondo are good fillers. I prefer the stronger properties of the epoxy filler i used in the thread referred to above for larger repairs.
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1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
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Old 11-08-2010, 06:52 PM
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I tried accessing that thread, but I am not a member of that forum. I have used plenty of bondo at my shop. I was leaning tward just using wood filler.
Bondo might work better. Id hate for the filler I used to jar loose if the drums ever get played. Now is definatly time to address this issue. Maybe just plain ole expoy would be best. Right Jonn?
here is the pic from the other thread with the granitone match. the plasticote was the best match for that drum. I donot use hardware store type epoxy as a wood filler. I am not going to repost the rest of that thread here sorry. it is not a big deal to join the forum if you want more builder's info. best of luck
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Old 11-08-2010, 07:05 PM
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Judging by the caps, I'd say the Plasti-cote may be the best choice. Another you can check out is offered by Duplicolor, its GM trunk paint. Try your local autoparts store for that one. It's also fairly close in color and texture to the original Granitone.
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