Zildjian ding on edge..

[longjohn]

Not a vintage.. but asking for some vintage appraisal... Never owned a dinged cymbal but have played a few on occasion. Have a chance to pick this up at almost 1/2 retail (which down here is a few hundred buck saving) . Looks like a deal to me … have not seen it in person but the sound reviews come up as what I'm after … I think I could tidy up the rough nick a little.. "To buy or not to buy" that is the question .
Any thoughts appreciated..

Cheers John

[J!m]

I think you’ll be ok as long as there are no cracks.

File the burrs down and then blend it with progressively finer papers until you have a very smooth area. The width should be four times the depth (from where the edge originally was) to reduce the stress.

I have the same cymbal and it’s a sweet one. The 17 and under have smaller bells and don’t sound as good to me.

[longjohn]

Thanks Jim,

Seller is out of town till the weekend .. so I'll check it out then.. it's ex the Ebay stock shop so would be a damaged in transit item.. (Unplayed according to the seller).

Cheers
John

[J!m]

It would be unfortunate if that was damaged too far (cracked) although a good cymbalsmith could probably turn it down to 17-1/2" without it sounding too bad. But that's extra cost...

I got a set of 13" K Custom Dark hi hats used (and abused), dirty, nasty flea-bitten mess for very cheap and I love them. So much, I bought the matching ride (20") and the 18" crash. The smaller crashes are very "gongy" to me and don't sound well rounded to me at all. The 18" can be ridden on, especially with light sticks.

[bfulton]

I’m always on the lookout for cymbals with dings or other light damage. A small ding would very likely have no affect on the sound.
I’ve bought a number of these orphans and have been disappointed by only one! My playing far from being heavy - I’ve been playing an 18 Paiste crash for about six years with no further damage.
It’s an easy way to save substantial money. And if it’s terrible? Make a clock, give it to that irritating relative for a wedding present!

[longjohn]

Originally Posted by bfulton

I’m always on the lookout for cymbals with dings or other light damage. A small ding would very likely have no affect on the sound.
I’ve bought a number of these orphans and have been disappointed by only one! My playing far from being heavy - I’ve been playing an 18 Paiste crash for about six years with no further damage.
It’s an easy way to save substantial money. And if it’s terrible? Make a clock, give it to that irritating relative for a wedding present!

Wedding Present ?? good idea.. I have a few cheapies around the place that are unplayable.. may make one for the drum room.
Re the cymbal that I posted... I was last minute "Gazumped" by the seller on the day that I was to inspect it, so never got to see it in the flesh, I would have paid the asking price.
No problem though picked up a great deal on a K sweet crash in mint condition and am a happy camper...

I think it sounds darker than the dark range..

Cheers
John

[jaghog]

I’ve been playing a ride a crash and 15 hats the ride horrible crack at edge and crash a older paiste with mid crack on lathe an set of vintage zildjians that are one of the best setsI’ve heard it has small nick and deflection on edge but they are great so I don’t use hammer on them

[J!m]

I picked up a 20” a few years ago for near nothing because it had a bunch of cracks. The (young) kid working there was looking at me a bit strangely as I was all over this thing-

Crash, ride, great dark tone, edge wobble- perfect really- really excellent sound. Maybe I’ll drill the cracks but I’m afraid I’d spoil it.

Bottom line: sound. But, with the cracks in my case here, there is a risk of further damage.

[skins_in_the_game]

I heard the 90's band Marcy's Playground Play a while back and first it was amazing that the drummer does his whole show with just hats and one crash/ride. It sounded great and I talked to him after the show and that cymbal had a major crack but you couldn't tell from the crowd. He did say he had to constantly move the crack away from him and he would be replacing it when he got the chance but the sound was good.