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Old 02-12-2019, 11:25 PM
idrum4fun idrum4fun is offline
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So, I just found this snare drum on eBay! https://www.ebay.com/itm/1960s-VTG-J...m/183645684912

I paid nowhere near that price!

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Old 02-13-2019, 02:05 AM
Trilok_Gurtu Trilok_Gurtu is offline
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My first thought was Pearl as well. I have a 60's Pearl snare that is a dead on copy of a Slingerland model (lugs, hoops, etc), including the non-usual throw off. So, I figured this could be another version. I attached a few pics.

I did post your pics on a vintage MIJ Facebook group. One guy seems to have the same snare (pic attached). I also attached his reply. His snare looks gorgeous.

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Old 02-13-2019, 11:26 AM
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Very cool snare, Mark. It reminds me a lot of a BDP "Gracy" snare that I have. I dig the extra wide re-rings.

Also, I know that strainer is not the best, but I imagine there is something oddly satisfying about moving that lever to engage/disengage the snares. Reminds me of an old-school phonograph we used to have when I was a kid. It was a similar lever that selected FM, AM, or Phono.
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Old 02-13-2019, 01:36 PM
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Hey, Mark!
I think that Mikey is right. I have MIJ lugs with hole spacings of 2 3/16 inches. I am certainly no Ludwig expert but, I believe the hole spacing on my Supra is 2 1/2 inches not 2 3/16.
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Old 02-13-2019, 01:46 PM
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My first thought was Pearl as well. I have a 60's Pearl snare that is a dead on copy of a Slingerland model (lugs, hoops, etc), including the non-usual throw off. So, I figured this could be another version. I attached a few pics.

I did post your pics on a vintage MIJ Facebook group. One guy seems to have the same snare (pic attached). I also attached his reply. His snare looks gorgeous.

This is half the fun with badge-less drums haha.
Hi TG! Thanks for posting the pictures and the reply. Yes, it could be Hoshino. While the lugs on my snare resemble what Pearl was offering, they are different enough to think they might be from another manufacturer. Also, the blue sparkle drum is just like my drum, although his is missing the piece that the snare wires attach to.

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Old 02-13-2019, 01:48 PM
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Very cool snare, Mark. It reminds me a lot of a BDP "Gracy" snare that I have. I dig the extra wide re-rings.

Also, I know that strainer is not the best, but I imagine there is something oddly satisfying about moving that lever to engage/disengage the snares. Reminds me of an old-school phonograph we used to have when I was a kid. It was a similar lever that selected FM, AM, or Phono.
Hi V!

Yeah, the strainer isn't the best, but it is cool engineering! Pretty neat about the phonograph you had, with this style lever!

-Mark
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Old 02-13-2019, 01:57 PM
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Hey, Mark!
I think that Mikey is right. I have MIJ lugs with hole spacings of 2 3/16 inches. I am certainly no Ludwig expert but, I believe the hole spacing on my Supra is 2 1/2 inches not 2 3/16.
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Hi Brian!

All of Ludwig's USA-made drums, with double-ended lugs, such as the Imperial, Classic and Acrolite lugs, have always had a mounting hole spacing of 2-3/16". What's interesting is that many of the brass shells available to custom builders, that are already punched for lugs, have a spacing of 2-3/16"! Makes it easy to use tube lugs, Imperial or Acrolite lugs. Attached is a picture of a drum I put together, using a Worldmax brass shell and Acrolite lugs...with 2-3/16" spacing.

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Old 02-14-2019, 08:17 AM
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Hi Brian!

All of Ludwig's USA-made drums, with double-ended lugs, such as the Imperial, Classic and Acrolite lugs, have always had a mounting hole spacing of 2-3/16". What's interesting is that many of the brass shells available to custom builders, that are already punched for lugs, have a spacing of 2-3/16"! Makes it easy to use tube lugs, Imperial or Acrolite lugs. Attached is a picture of a drum I put together, using a Worldmax brass shell and Acrolite lugs...with 2-3/16" spacing.

-Mark
Thanks, Mark! I think it's time to get my glasses changed! That's certainly a beautiful drum you put together! Amazing work! Thanks again for the clarification! I'll gradually learn.
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Old 02-14-2019, 08:19 AM
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Hi Brian!

All of Ludwig's USA-made drums, with double-ended lugs, such as the Imperial, Classic and Acrolite lugs, have always had a mounting hole spacing of 2-3/16". What's interesting is that many of the brass shells available to custom builders, that are already punched for lugs, have a spacing of 2-3/16"! Makes it easy to use tube lugs, Imperial or Acrolite lugs. Attached is a picture of a drum I put together, using a Worldmax brass shell and Acrolite lugs...with 2-3/16" spacing.

-Mark
Damn! I think I was thinking of STRAINER spacing! Ahhh...
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Old 02-14-2019, 10:17 AM
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Damn! I think I was thinking of STRAINER spacing! Ahhh...
Brian
That makes sense! Many of Ludwig's strainers, such as the P83, P85, P86 and new P88, all use a spacing of 2.5".

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