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Old 09-03-2011, 06:52 PM
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Hi, I have this Pacific kit I'm staining because the black wrap was warping. Kit pictured below minus the 14" floor tom which I gave to a young drummer.



I decided to stain it a green tea color



I've coated the insides with Tung Oil so far



I was wondering if I could put a coat of polyurethane and dump glitter on it if this would work? I don't know if putting the glitter in the poly first would work either. I'm attemping a green sparkle kit (without wrap) even if I have to make it myself!....lol. Any input would be appreciated...Thanks in advance.

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Old 09-03-2011, 06:59 PM
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Two stained so far



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Old 09-03-2011, 09:03 PM
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How much patience do you have?

Are you going to also tint your clear coat with green? 'cos otherwise, you will just have silver glitter with a green back ground. And if you use green glitter, the lacquer will eat the green dye.

What I would suggest (since this is obviously an experiment) to spray a decently heavy-ish coat of lacquer, dump your glitter, then spray light coats of tinted lacquer (tinted to the green tea colour) with a gun or a Preval unit. You will use a BUNCH of it to bury the flakes (we're talking gallons, here!!!). The one thing you won't have to worry about is properly sealing the wood before-hand (as you're going to use SOOOOOOOO many coats to bury the flakes), but it's probably not a bad idea to seal it properly anyhow. But you will be looking at a bunch of clear before you could even CONSIDER any sort of wet sanding and polishing. It takes a LOT to bury those big, old flakes.

If you're looking for what are called here in America "Bass Boat Flakes", this is the ONLY way you can get this effect, as flakes will not go through a gun.

If it were me, I'd just use wipe-on poly and be done with it. You're looking at a very long and frustrating process.

Also, if you look at most sparkle wraps, they have a silver base with green tint. This means you probably need to paint the shells silver, clear it, dump glitter, then spray a coat or two of tinted clear, then your five bazillion coats of clear. Also- remember the rule of threes- three coats, sprayed one hour apart.
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Old 09-03-2011, 09:36 PM
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Thanks bunnyman! Yeah all of that was going through my head too especially after I found out glitter is not cheap! 3bucks an oz. Thanks for letting me know about the glitters color coming off and all the work it may have taken. Sounds like you've tried this before. I should have just bought some green glitter wrap..lol. Now I'm going with the poly afterward and that's it. Thanks again for your input!
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Old 09-03-2011, 10:00 PM
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Yeah- I tried building a bass boat sparkle Wolfgang guitar. I thought I was NEVER going to get the flakes to lay down. I followed what was suggested and resisted temptation to sand it until I could not see the "tops" of the glitter. Years later, the clear still sank, kinda like a bumpy Premier glass sparkle. Nitro has a tendency to do that. But this is a stage guitar for a friend of mine, and it still looks good onstage. Note that I am not a professional instrument builder...

The colour of glitter is fine with Elmer's glue, but when solvents get involved (and even "water-based" paints use solvents), that's when it gets hairy. I don't know this from experience, but know it from second-hand experience. Now, if you go to a custom paint shoppe, you could find coloured sparkle, but it would cost a fair amount of money.

I really like the colour of your stain!!! It's cool as hell.
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Old 09-03-2011, 11:12 PM
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Thanks for the stain color compliment and also saving me the glitter headache syndrome. I had put a coat of poly on it with a brush, 220 sanded it and put on another coat. The finish is not all that smooth and glossy as I would've liked. Maybe it'll look okay after a 3rd coat. I picked the color from this cool Whitney SideKick green kit I've seen.
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Old 09-03-2011, 11:25 PM
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Keep coating and sanding. You'll get it. Maybe even try some finer paper. 220 is kinda rough for finish work.

Cool kit you based your scheme from.
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Old 09-05-2011, 01:16 PM
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Here's how it turned out. I'm likin' it for a (poplar?) kit.
It actually sounds very good. Custom conduit tom arm...lol





After playing it last night at a party and lugging it home, the next day I noticed that when I had left the snare on the bottom of the FT, that it stuck to the Evans G1 coated head and had to rip it from the head. (twice now). It never did this on a Remo Ambassador.


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Old 09-05-2011, 01:29 PM
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You just made your own pinstripe drum head. I know that it is currently en vogue for people to rag on Remo products. I have used them for over fifty years with great satisfaction. I am not ragging on Evans or any other brands. Just stating my good thoughts about remo heads.
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Old 09-05-2011, 01:52 PM
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You just made your own pinstripe drum head. I know that it is currently en vogue for people to rag on Remo products. I have used them for over fifty years with great satisfaction. I am not ragging on Evans or any other brands. Just stating my good thoughts about remo heads.
Didn't mean to sound like I was ragging about anything but just stating my observations. I love Evans and Remo products both.
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