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Old 06-06-2019, 11:28 AM
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Hi everyone!

I recently received a first generation, 1965, Slingerland Gene Krupa Sound King snare drum. These are characterized by the smooth shell, rather than having the three (3) etched lines around the middle of the shell that we are all used to seeing. I recognized that this drum was very clean and all original, except for the heads and snare wires. I could tell from some of the pictures that the original rubber washer between the strainer knob and "tombstone" body was missing, due to disintegration over the decades!

First order of business was to take the drum completely apart for inspection and cleaning/detailing. I'll comment on all this in a future post!

While cleaning the Zoomatic, the knob just popped off! Bummer! Turned out to be a blessing in disguise, allowing me to completely take apart the strainer for a good cleaning. Soaking in Dawn really did remove dirt and old grease!

The splines on the shaft and inside the knob are in excellent condition! My plan is to reattach the knob with JB Weld "kwikweld" and cross my fingers! You'll notice in the pictures a small black washer, just above the two original compression washers. That's a perfect size fiber washer that will be installed on the shaft between the knob and "tombstone" casting to eliminate play and make the use of a spring between the shell and the Zoomatic unecessary! I'll report back on how this repair turns out!

-Mark
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Old 06-06-2019, 11:34 AM
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Great looking snare Mark. Would you care to share the serial number?
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Old 06-06-2019, 11:47 AM
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Great looking snare Mark. Would you care to share the serial number?
Done! SN is 5059, and is shown in "as-received" condition. I'll be detailing the badge and the drum will be in a separate post.

-Mark
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Old 06-06-2019, 12:42 PM
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Thanks Mark. Your snare is a bit older than you thought. Serial 5059 is most likely early '63 with late '62 a possibility. My latest documented '62 serial is 35xx with a Nov. '62 date stamp. My earliest '63 serial is 52xx with a Jan. '63 date stamp. Also per Dr. CJ Wenk the "no lines" COB Krupa was used '62-'63. The "three lines" were added in '64. Your shell and serial make sense. Nice find!

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Old 06-06-2019, 12:49 PM
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Thanks Mark. Your snare is a bit older than you thought. Serial 5059 is most likely early '63 with late '62 a possibility. My latest documented '62 serial is 35xx with a Nov. '62 date stamp. My earliest '63 serial is 52xx with a Jan. '63 date stamp. Also per Dr. CJ Wenk the "no lines" COB Krupa was used '62-'63. The "three lines" were added in '64. Shell and serial make sense. Nice find!
Thanks for that info! For some reason, I thought this snare didn't come out until 1965. I didn't realize that it shows in the 1963 catalog! That's not to say it wasn't available a year earlier, as it always took time for new items to appear in catalogs.

The drum has been completely disassembled and most of the parts are super clean. I can't believe how clean the tension rods, lug springs and lug nuts are! This drum must have been sitting in a protective bag all these years! Again, I'll report on all this in a separate post.

Oh yeah, I also have a set of original wires for this drum, those odd half-extended wires with a metal strap on the butt end!

-Mark
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Old 06-06-2019, 01:17 PM
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Just returned from my local Home Depot with my J-B KwikWeld. Time to get to work!

-Mark
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Old 06-06-2019, 02:05 PM
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All done and will be cured around 2:40pm PDT!

I first lubricated the moving parts using PhonoLube, which is a synthetic light grease that works great. Next, combine two small equal parts, mix thoroughly, apply a small amount around the splines on the shaft (sorry for the blurry picture!), assemble with the pressure washers facing the proper direction, add the fiber washer, push on the knob and place in vice, LIGHTLY tightened just to keep the part from falling. Now, we wait until 2:40pm!

-Mark
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Old 06-06-2019, 05:34 PM
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Just returned from my local Home Depot with my J-B KwikWeld. Time to get to work!

-Mark
The J-B weld will hold fine. You may not be able to ever get it apart again!
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Old 06-06-2019, 05:48 PM
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The J-B weld will hold fine. You may not be able to ever get it apart again!
That's what I'm hoping for! I just realized it's time to take the Zoomatic out of the vise!

-Mark
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Old 06-16-2019, 11:08 AM
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The JB Weld is super strong.
On some of the press-fit parts with the splined shaft, sometimes a whack with a rubber mallet is enough to hold it, too.

The Zoomatic looks great! Nice to find one with all the pieces!
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