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Old 01-09-2017, 12:19 PM
jfl317 jfl317 is offline
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Default Does this look Ludwig-ish to you?

Been looking for a 3 ply floor tom rescue project, and ran across this. Has anyone ever seen a 3 section "veneer" on the interior of '70s era B/O toms like this? Looked odd to me, and wanted a little advice before pulling the trigger on something that might not be as advertised. (badge on the shell dates to 1976 if that helps any) Thanks in advance!
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Old 01-09-2017, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: Does this look Ludwig-ish to you?

Hi there!
As far as I can see, it looks like a "split cracked" inner ply.
Odd but possible...
No three sections plies from Ludwig for sure...
A few more pics could help
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Old 01-09-2017, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: Does this look Ludwig-ish to you?

Thanks Heraldo! Unfortunately, this is the only pic of the interior that is on the ad.
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1967 Ludwig Supraphonic 5 x 14
1976 Ludwig Acrolite 5 x 14
1966 Ludwig Pioneer 5 x 14
66-'67-ish Slingerland orphan project 20/13 (original champagne sparkling pearl)
Mid-60's Slingerland Gene Krupa COB Sound King 5 x 14
Mid-50's Slingerland tenor-to-floor tom resto/conversion project
Early 50's Slingerland Marcher resto project
Pork Pie 6.5 x 14 Big Black
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Old 01-09-2017, 03:04 PM
Heraldo Blasco Heraldo Blasco is offline
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Default Re: Does this look Ludwig-ish to you?

3 ply Maple-Poplar-Maple w/ maple re-rings are correct for that period (76 as you mentioned).
Let's hear other opinion about that inner ply...
Hope I could help more!!
Best of lucks!
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Old 01-09-2017, 03:37 PM
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Default Re: Does this look Ludwig-ish to you?

That seems pretty odd, then again, I'm not very smart...

I wouldn't bet on it being genuine.
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Old 01-09-2017, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: Does this look Ludwig-ish to you?

Thanks for the input guys! Honestly I just assumed it was veneer pieces from the way they ran in the picture, but I guess it could be cracks in the inner ply...either way, I think I will pass!
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1967 Ludwig Supraphonic 5 x 14
1976 Ludwig Acrolite 5 x 14
1966 Ludwig Pioneer 5 x 14
66-'67-ish Slingerland orphan project 20/13 (original champagne sparkling pearl)
Mid-60's Slingerland Gene Krupa COB Sound King 5 x 14
Mid-50's Slingerland tenor-to-floor tom resto/conversion project
Early 50's Slingerland Marcher resto project
Pork Pie 6.5 x 14 Big Black
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Old 01-09-2017, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: Does this look Ludwig-ish to you?

That does look "Ludwigish" to me, especially with that white-ish wood filler near the splits which I've seen on quite a few Ludwig drums. I guess it doesn't matter now since you're passing on it. If everything else looked right I wouldn't think it wasn't a Ludwig based just on this shell interior. Not everything they produced was made to the sort of super high standards we all expect today. It probably wasn't that apparent when new but I've seen others like that when a drum has led a hard life.
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Old 01-09-2017, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: Does this look Ludwig-ish to you?

I can see the corners at the bottom of the pic, that layer does not go under the re-rings. It`s a poor laminate job and what happens when you line up seams.
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Old 01-09-2017, 05:58 PM
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Thanks guys...I love this forum!
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1967 Ludwig Supraphonic 5 x 14
1976 Ludwig Acrolite 5 x 14
1966 Ludwig Pioneer 5 x 14
66-'67-ish Slingerland orphan project 20/13 (original champagne sparkling pearl)
Mid-60's Slingerland Gene Krupa COB Sound King 5 x 14
Mid-50's Slingerland tenor-to-floor tom resto/conversion project
Early 50's Slingerland Marcher resto project
Pork Pie 6.5 x 14 Big Black
Zildjians
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Old 01-09-2017, 06:32 PM
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Default Re: Does this look Ludwig-ish to you?

Could it be a Ludwig someone added a veneer to? Does the grommet look original and the badge look untampered with?
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