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Old 03-21-2017, 11:18 PM
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Hey for the bass drum do what I did on my red kit- replace the bottom bass drum t-rods with the same length regular Tuning screws. I got the idea from some kit I saw but it allows precise Tuning without the T hitting the ground. Since you have the right claws it'll look factory.

I also sort the lug casings when I restore a kit, so the worst ones are on the bottom or opposite the badge, which typically faces out.
Way ahead of you on both counts.

I decided to bite the bullet and risk my wife's wrath by stripping some paint in the basement bathroom (exhaust fan). I managed to get almost everything off the shells in 2.5 hours and the smell was minimal. Only problem is that room is too small to do the bass drum in. haha

But okay guys, seriously. I cannot see a single reason why a really dark stain color should not work on these shells if I give them one final acetone wash and a light sanding. They're all the same tone/color, they all have decent grain and minimal scratching, and there are no patches, bumps, or weird looking bits - at all. The seams are straight and tight. My only problem area may be the residue of 2 glue strips on either side of the seam. The stain might not take to those spots. But the seams are at the back of the drum and I think it's definitely worth a try.

The first photo shows the shells after my 2.5 hours tonight. The second I only included to show off another project I picked up... a 16x24" Star (Tama) cocktail drum. Very nice luan shell, Slingy copy hardware, interior snare that works like a muffler, plus an actual muffler, cymbal arm, couple of extra floor tom style mounts for accessories or another drum. This one might be for sale to help fund the Ludwig kit, so if you know someone who might love a Star cocktail kit, pass it along!
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Old 03-24-2017, 06:46 PM
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Guys... seriously. Look at this maple. I'm using an Ebony stain on these bad boys. I guess these shells aren't typical of Rockers but they look great.
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Old 03-26-2017, 10:46 PM
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I don't know if anyone's still watching, but here is the latest. I started staining with oil based ebony colored stain, and stopped after 2 coats - I love this! I kind of wanted an antique look and this fits the bill - a perfect gigging kit for my alt-country band. Just left it at that. I like the smooth-but-dull effect it's got at this stage.

I need a few brass eyelets and heads - but if all goes well I'll have the kit complete and outfitted with heads by end of next week. A friend is looking into printing me some custom badges with his 3D printer.

Not at extravagant as a rewrap or as beautiful as some of the veneer jobs I've seen JC do. But I'm thrilled anyway. This is a great little honky tonk kit and it's going gigging this summer!
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Old 03-27-2017, 01:52 AM
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They look great! No lacquer?
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Old 03-27-2017, 06:09 AM
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Im still watching.

The stain looks great, nice color. But, you really should have some varnish or lacquer over the stain. If you get some finish that has a dull sheen it would look even better but still wont be shinny new looking. You could even lightly sand the finish with a 400 grit sponge to make it look old and worn out. If you leave it like it is you wont be able to clean it very good and stuff like oil from your hands will eventually make them look bad.
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Old 03-27-2017, 08:37 AM
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Looks great, but I agree you might want to put some type of protectant coating on it. Afraid that any little bump, scrape, or gouge is going to show forever. but if you are going for that dinged up, ridden hard look, I guess it would just enhance it. As for the outer ply, I have a 14" 4 ply era Rocker in my basement I got with some other orphans, and the outer ply is a lovely clear piece of stain-grade maple like yours!
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Old 03-27-2017, 10:01 AM
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They look great. At least put some floor wax or beeswax on them.
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Old 03-27-2017, 10:02 AM
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Things will soak right in.
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Old 03-27-2017, 10:07 AM
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Guys, I'm planning on giving the drums a thin coat of varathane when they're all done. I just couldn't wait to see them with hardware on them.

Once the entire kit is done and I've made a decision on badges, they will have a final finish. I just meant I was done as far as the stain was concerned. I had originally planned to go much darker, but I love the brown that I wound up with.
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Old 03-27-2017, 10:08 AM
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Question for JC: What about Tung Oil? Would that protect and also help deepen the colour a little bit?
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