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Old 12-19-2018, 01:47 PM
patrick patrick is offline
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Default Re: Wrap Fading 1964 Ludwig

Agree totally with Novus 1, 2. You won't get back to original, but you will get a nice and relatively shiny wrap.

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Old 12-22-2018, 04:37 AM
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Default Re: Wrap Fading 1964 Ludwig

Thank you all for good input and I think I may well go the Novus route. One final question, has anyone tried that Retrobrite chemical method of removing the yellow? Would it work on these early drums? What material would the wrap be in 1964?
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Old 12-22-2018, 09:31 AM
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Original Oyster Black was made of Cellulous Acetate. I believe these oyster wraps were different than others in that there is just one layer to it rather than being a 3 layer laminate like a sparkle or glitter or marine pearl wrap. That means that if it's yellowed it may be so all the way through, not just on the surface.


As Bun mentioned the old Oyster Black tended to have areas that were clear and you can often see through to the reddish brown of the outer mahogany ply of the shell. That's normal, 100% original, and nothing can be done about it anyhow. I'm not sure if that's what you are seeing but if so no amount of polishing will help with that.


There is also a Novus 3 for deeply scratched plastics. Novus 2 and 3 both contain abrasives so they do more than just buff. Novus 1 is just a cleaner. Generally Novus 2 will remove fine scratches and leave you with a nice sheen.
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Old 12-22-2018, 11:15 AM
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I have some wrap fading on a 1964 Ludwig black oyster pearl drum. How can I improve the fade to get back to the full beauty of the wrap? It has a slight brown tinge to it. Is there a chemical method as I have seen here but some say it is for later drums only. What about rubbing down and polishing? Thoughts on this appreciated.
Sometimes you get lucky and it`s just smoke that is on top of the finish clear film. Sometimes you don`t and like has been said, is under that film. Got a pic ?
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Old 12-27-2018, 03:04 AM
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Some photos as suggested. By the way you will notice that it is the 12 Tom that has the fade. It is noticeably yellowed compared with the other drums. Advice appreciated.
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Old 12-27-2018, 08:29 AM
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I would do nothing more than Novus 2 and Novus 1; alternatively Meguire's PlastiX. Lovely drums, that is what they should look like after 55 years!
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Old 02-09-2019, 04:42 AM
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I have started on this kit yet but I did try wet sanding a panel on the bottom of my 58 WFL bassdrum. I am going very carefully with 200 grade sponge pad and the I will go up to 1200 and buff this panel with the novus to see the true difference. Iím very pleased as you can see the removal of the fade noticeably. The key is to go very gently i feel...
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Old 02-09-2019, 04:46 AM
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Attachment.

Can people see the difference, or am I kidding myself? Lol.
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Old 02-09-2019, 08:37 AM
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Yes clearly. White`s whiter and blue is blue again. Very noticeable.
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Old 02-09-2019, 02:52 PM
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Well, if you're turning Oyster Black Pearl into Oyster Blue Pearl, I'd stop now!...marko
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