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Old 12-17-2018, 06:43 AM
Robzildjian Robzildjian is offline
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Default Wrap Fading 1964 Ludwig

I have some wrap fading on a 1964 Ludwig black oyster pearl drum. How can I improve the fade to get back to the full beauty of the wrap? It has a slight brown tinge to it. Is there a chemical method as I have seen here but some say it is for later drums only. What about rubbing down and polishing? Thoughts on this appreciated.
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Old 12-17-2018, 09:23 AM
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Default Re: Wrap Fading 1964 Ludwig

Once the clear coat does not protect the cellulose pearl any longer, the Uv and other toxins attack the pigments and shifts and twist the color , the only way you might bring back some life. Is to wet sand and buff or a extreme , recoat the clear
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Old 12-17-2018, 11:17 AM
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Default Re: Wrap Fading 1964 Ludwig

The brown tinge may be the mahogany shell showing through the wrap after some of the color has faded away (usually due to UV light affecting the wrap color).
Most noticeable on oyster wraps.
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Old 12-17-2018, 11:21 AM
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Default Re: Wrap Fading 1964 Ludwig

It does look more like surface yellowing. Sorry if I misled with using the word brown.
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Old 12-17-2018, 12:11 PM
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Default Re: Wrap Fading 1964 Ludwig

Using something like lacquer thinner is very effective. However, it is also destructive and not really for the faint of heart. It removes the outer clear coat but could also damage the pearl wrap underneath, so great caution should be taken. Lots of info available for doing that on this forum.

I recently removed roughly 60-70% of yellowing off a WMP Radio King using a 4-step Turtle Wax headlamp lens cleaner from an auto parts store. Worked well, took no more than an hour, and didn't harm the pearl underneath. Carnauba wax to re-seal it and it looks great.

Again, do a search on the forum before you decide and execute - lots of good tips out here for a project like this. I learned a lot when I was restoring that RK.
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Old 12-17-2018, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: Wrap Fading 1964 Ludwig

I'd try the Novus 2 and 1 on it and leave it at that. It will give you a nice gloss and lustre and will not harm the wrap in anyway.

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Old 12-19-2018, 09:39 AM
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Default Re: Wrap Fading 1964 Ludwig

Iím with Mike.The Novus polish is SAFE and effective.
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Old 12-19-2018, 10:32 AM
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Default Re: Wrap Fading 1964 Ludwig

Would you machine buff or by hand with the Novus?
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Old 12-19-2018, 12:15 PM
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By hand here.
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Old 12-19-2018, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: Wrap Fading 1964 Ludwig

When you just buff , it just polished period .
To get rid of scratches, and yellowing you must remove layers of clear and if not to far you can buff back to a great gloss or recoat.
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some nice old bronze pies
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