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Old 10-12-2015, 08:17 PM
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Default Re: Tama Swingstar - Restoration Project

John use the Motzenbocker's Grafitti Remover #4 (I got mine at home depot)

DO NOT USE STRIPPER OR ACETONE !!! You have been warned

Purdie shuffle hooked me up with the best stuff to use

if what is under the paint is save-able at all
this will remove the paint with no damage to what you have under it

These silver sparkle Slingerland shells spent decades completely covered in plumb crazy purple paint

The Graffiti remover does not melt the paint off like acetone or stripper
and both will certainly melt the wrap
this stuff it actually changes the chemistry of the paint
where it is somehow unable to stay adhered to the surface it was applied too

your drum wrap will not be harmed It is amazing stuff

I love the zola coated Swings they always sound great............. GOOD LUCK!!
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Old 10-12-2015, 11:34 PM
R.Adam McHugh R.Adam McHugh is offline
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Wow, impressive job with those Slingies!

Any Oz members here know of an Oz equivalent to Motzenbocker's Grafitti Remover? We don't have the same brands of things over here because of the tectonic plates...
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Old 10-13-2015, 12:34 AM
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These guys are the OZ importers...

http://www.floodaustralia.net/products/stain_removers/

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John
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Old 10-13-2015, 12:49 AM
R.Adam McHugh R.Adam McHugh is offline
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These guys are the OZ importers...

http://www.floodaustralia.net/products/stain_removers/

Cheers
John
Fantastic, thanks John! I had no idea. Never heard of it before.
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Old 10-13-2015, 05:36 AM
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My (understanding), is NOT to use it anywhere near drum wrap... I have used it to remove black marks off of plastic computer products and it does soften the surface of plastic.... Someone else should chime in... But I'd wait meantime for some more advice.....

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John
Thanks longjohn.
In fact, there's no difference between areas (synthetic thinner vs acetone).
Anyway, I'll wait for more opinions to avoid damage the wrap.
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Old 10-13-2015, 06:52 AM
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John use the Motzenbocker's Grafitti Remover #4 (I got mine at home depot)

DO NOT USE STRIPPER OR ACETONE !!! You have been warned

Purdie shuffle hooked me up with the best stuff to use

if what is under the paint is save-able at all
this will remove the paint with no damage to what you have under it

These silver sparkle Slingerland shells spent decades completely covered in plumb crazy purple paint

The Graffiti remover does not melt the paint off like acetone or stripper
and both will certainly melt the wrap
this stuff it actually changes the chemistry of the paint
where it is somehow unable to stay adhered to the surface it was applied too

your drum wrap will not be harmed It is amazing stuff

I love the zola coated Swings they always sound great............. GOOD LUCK!!

Thanks for advice.
This wasn't spray painted. The paint is old, thick and hard. If I scuff with nail it doesn't come off.
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Old 10-13-2015, 07:25 AM
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Correction

I used nail polish remover. Here we use to call it simply "acetone".

Anyway, I think the remover has acetone in it's composition.
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Old 10-13-2015, 01:31 PM
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Hello again John,

First off, I somehow did not realize when I posted that you are located outside the U.S.
as I would not be sure if the graffiti remover is even available to you

However If it is available to you .
it does come in several formulations for use on many different types of paint
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:14 PM
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Hello again John,

First off, I somehow did not realize when I posted that you are located outside the U.S.
as I would not be sure if the graffiti remover is even available to you

However If it is available to you .
it does come in several formulations for use on many different types of paint
Hi Kenwood.


Yes, I'm not in US. The brands that most of you talk about here are not for sale in my country. Of course there are other brands and similiar products, but I don't know them. I tried the nail polish remover in the lug zone just for curiosity. For my surprise, it removed the paint very easily and didn't damaged the wrap. What is the material of Tama wraps? Acetone only damage some types of "plastic", it depends on it's composition.

(ps: sorry for my English, it's not my native language )
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Old 10-13-2015, 08:11 PM
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I removed almost all the black paint from 13" tom, just a few spots left. (The nail polish remover is over )

The nail polish remover did the job. After the wet cloth, I used a dry cloth to remove it quickly and prevent damage.

The wrap became dull because of the paint residues affected by acetone.
After cleanup with a bit of synthetic thinner in a cloth and the wrap recovered the shine again.
This process left some circle light scratches due to the rubbing.

When I get all the shells cleaned, I hope I can polish them with Novus or other product. What do you recomend?

Pictures bellow:










I forget to tell you... I have an orphan Tama Royalstar bass drum that came with a Tama Superstar I bought. It has the same finish, it will be the donor of bass drum hoops and some lugs. You can see it in the photo bellow.




The scratches


[Edit] Broken image URLs fixed

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