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Old 08-23-2010, 10:10 PM
teverson-sr teverson-sr is offline
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I have always been very curious to see an example of a Soviet/Russian drum set.There must have been drum companies to produce marching percussion.What about drum sets?Or were they playing Roxy-Tromsa-Amati's?I remember seeing a Russian marching bass drum on Ebay a few years back-very primitive single tension job with cyrillic writing on the head.I am curious(red).
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Old 08-23-2010, 11:02 PM
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I had a line on a Russian kit YEARS ago,and am still kicking myself for not grabbing........

Guy said no re-rings,a la Gretsch.

The foot pedal and hi hat had cyrillic writing on them too!
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Old 08-24-2010, 01:13 AM
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Reminds me back to my school days back in the early 70s, when my class made a ten days field excursion to Moskow ... Western guys meet Eastern guys.
We (my class-mate played keyboards and guitar) had the opportunity to play there on a meeting with native pupils. Can't really remember the instruments we played with, as they were just standing there around.
It was Russia in times of the 'Cold War'. Meaning: the people there really had absolutely no access to any 'Western stuff': no jeans to buy, no chewing gum etc. etc. - and, for sure: no western made musical instruments!
Tromsa and Roxy were 'Made in Western Germany' at that time, meaning: out of reach for any person behind the iron curtain.
The former GDR (Germany, too, but behind the iron curtain ...) produced drums under the label 'Tacton': some shells even made of pasted (paper) board in lack of production capabilities and often lack of raw materials! If any of such instruments come up today, they will just have museum character, but they'll never offer any playing potential.

And also very important: music from the West was 'no wanted' by the Russian Regime. So why should they let someone produce drumsets, when there will be played with music that is no wanted? I wonder, if there really exists one single drumset 'Made in Russia'.

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Old 08-24-2010, 11:50 AM
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there were/are a considerable number Eastern Bloc percussion companies. i remember seeing a Polish made kit at a vintage drum shop in Toronto about 5 years ago. it was very old world and traditional ----looked like it was made in the 50's; the badge said something like A.Krawelski Co. then the city. almost like the label inside a violin. Tromsa by the way did little exporting and eventually stopped badging their drums.this is why Tromsa drums show up all the time and people say "they are Roxy".Roxies were remarketed Tromsa's and here is my theory. Tromsa, which up to the mid. 50's were fully the equal of Sonor ,Deri,Trixon and Lefima began to fall behind due to their unwillingness to export and increasingly accepted offers to do stencil brands(Voss,Hohner,Kings,Concorde,Roxy,Lindbergh,K orri).Many of these were exported alleviating the necessity for Tromsa to do so-----let Mr. Roxy sell drums in N.A. and because Tromsa mfg. the heads,they used the Tromsa label on the heads as a badge and badged the other drums if wanted by the buyer(it would cost a certain amount extra of course). It is unlikely that many of these drums ended up in the Eastern Bloc. Trixon did ,though, and Trowa and Tacton made a range of drums,some excellent----not just cardboard ones. There is a website ,that I came across about 2 years ago from Hungary that details a lot of unknown drum companies. There were domestic Russian drums ,Polish,Hungarian,Czech and some other obscure East German drums. I'll see if I can find it.
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Old 08-24-2010, 12:16 PM
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i found it drummuseum.hu----there is a whole world of stuff there. check out the Medveczky jazz kit and the copy from the editor!!! i have never seen cooler hardware. should be in the museum of modern art. there is a section on Tromsa too-----mint condition 70's stuff and no badges but they consistently state that Tromsa was from the G.D.R. ; perhaps i was wrong and Tromsa did export to the East Germans and then a broker then represented them to the other countries because the drums were actually mfg. in Russelsheim in West Germany.
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Old 08-24-2010, 02:32 PM
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I know that website, as I have done the translations into 'correct' German wording and into (hopefully also 'good') English as well, a few years ago.

Unfortunately there seems to be no time for the owner at the moment, to update all the pages.

I've gone into deep vintage since that time and know now, that there are a few more errors at several drumsets stated.
Correct is: Tromsa was a WEST German drums manufacturer (location: Rüsselheim) and NOT (!) GDR.

Ralf
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Old 05-18-2019, 08:00 AM
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George, if you are still out there, can you speak to the availability of Paiste cymbals prior to the start of World War II when they were located in Estonia from roughly 1917 to 1939?
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Old 01-12-2020, 05:39 PM
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News.

One of the Moscow drummers made a gift to the schoolchildren - he gave them a complete drum kit "EPOIMI", last version in the mint condition, indeed absolutely as new, 1984 release...

Here it is.

Cheers,
George.
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Old 01-12-2020, 08:28 PM
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Very cool looking drums!! What are the sizes? Are they metric?

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Old 01-13-2020, 08:56 PM
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Hi Rod!

This set principally the same as I early posted but includes some more things with the exception of FT 16" and origin BD-pedal.

So, it consist from:

BD 22' --> BD 20" --> FT 18x16" --> FT 14x14" --> RT 13" --> RT 12" --> bongos 8+6" --> SD 14x6.1/2".

Stands: straight stand --> counterweighted telescopical boom stand --> HH-stand --> SD-stand.

Bonus: previous type cymbal stand - from end of 60's...

Well, sort of like that ...

P.S: Sorry, Rod... I'm not very sober right now ... - today the second time New Year has come - according to the Orthodox calculus!

Cheers,
George.
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