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Old 01-26-2018, 04:23 PM
vyacheslav vyacheslav is offline
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Default New Tama Flat Base Hardware Pack-Very close to the 60's Ludwig-$100 less than DW too!

I mentioned in a thread a while back how the Tama "Classic Cymbal Stand" was the closest yet anyone has come to Ludwig 1400's from back in the day.

They now have introduced a classic snare stand, classic hi-hat stand and classic pedal, as well as a classic tom stand, that is just a taller version of the classic snare stand.

This stuff looks really good and although I'm not a "Tama Guy", I think we can all honestly say that Tama hardware is very reliable and very well made.

The fact these come in a sleek looking bag and come in at $100 under the DW ultralight pack (for the same amount of stands) makes it look even better. The entire pack, including the bag, weighs less than 18 pounds!

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...SABEgIoNvD_BwE

The classic pedal is not included in the pack (no pedal in the DW pack either), but here it is for you to check out. Looks pretty cool!

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...SABEgJPLfD_BwE

Enjoy!

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Old 01-26-2018, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: New Tama Flat Base Hardware Pack-Very close to the 60's Ludwig-$100 less than DW

I read about these over at the DFO site. Looks like excellent "vintage-looking" hardware! I really like that it comes with the soft bag, too. The bass drum pedal looks great and I like to give it a try! Thanks for posting those links!

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Old 01-26-2018, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: New Tama Flat Base Hardware Pack-Very close to the 60's Ludwig-$100 less than DW

I have 3 of the cymbal stands. They are are great alternative to paying folks ridiculous money for as rusty old Ludwig stand. The only thing I wasn't impressed with is the top rod on all 3 stands wiggle to varying degrees. Only mention this because Tama specifically mentions solving that issue with the original 1400 stands by installing an O ring. Had I bought the stands locally I would have returned them and asked to check out a few stands on hand for ones with less wobble. To be fair, I have not noticed it being an issue while playing. Just slightly annoying knowing it is there.

Sweetwater also mentions the stands come with cymbal mates. My stands did not but maybe they are part of the set.

It is also mentioned on Sweetwater the cymbal stands are convertible to boom stands. Mine are not and have the same product number.

If the set truly comes with the cymbal mates and the stands are flat base "boom" stands then it is a great deal. Something tells me they have it mixed up however.

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Old 01-27-2018, 01:22 AM
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Default Re: New Tama Flat Base Hardware Pack-Very close to the 60's Ludwig-$100 less than DW

In the picture it looks like they come with cymbal mates, but they are definitely not convertible boom stands. That is surely a misprint.

As far as the wobble goes on your stands, one thing that helps me on the old Ludwig 1400 stands is to use an automotive hose clamp on the top section as a "memory lock", but it also serves to make it more stable. Once you tighten down the hose clamp, the clamp itself easily supports the weight of the top section and cymbal, so the height adjustment wing nut is simply locking the top section into place, as opposed to locking it in place and having to support the full weight of the top section.

It seems to help me. It just feels so much more stable and secure that way, even if it's just mostly (or fully) psychological!

By the way, unless I am mistaken, I believe the reason that Tama installed the rubber O-ring on the top rod section was not for staving off wobble, but so that it would eliminate any noise or rattling, and also transmit less vibration to the rest of the stand/floor.
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Old 01-27-2018, 04:00 AM
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I think you are correct about the o ring being there for noise reduction. I had it in my mind it was to tighten up the fit, which it probably does a bit. I have not noticed any noise and I feel they are plenty sturdy. The really are a nice new alternative to the Ludwig 1400.

Too bad it isn't made in a boom stand. That would be perfect for a lighter ride.

I like how compact and lightweight the new hardware kit looks. Should be easy to pack and go. I didn't realize Tama had come out with it. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

Wes
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Old 01-29-2018, 11:20 AM
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Default Re: New Tama Flat Base Hardware Pack-Very close to the 60's Ludwig-$100 less than DW

You can thank Peter Erskine for the stands...
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Old 01-30-2018, 12:00 PM
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Default Re: New Tama Flat Base Hardware Pack-Very close to the 60's Ludwig-$100 less than DW

Chromacast has similar stands for WAY cheaper.
Maybe not the best ones out there but if you are adding a third set of hardware...


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Old 01-30-2018, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: New Tama Flat Base Hardware Pack-Very close to the 60's Ludwig-$100 less than DW

This is cool.

Do they have a matching L-arm for the bass drum? I have a Gibraltar one on my D20 and the tilter on top is a bit... oversized for the rest of the stand.
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Old 01-30-2018, 05:58 PM
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Default Re: New Tama Flat Base Hardware Pack-Very close to the 60's Ludwig-$100 less than DW

Love the vintage looks and weights, don’t love that they can’t hold up my vintage cymbals.
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Old 02-03-2018, 01:00 AM
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Default Re: New Tama Flat Base Hardware Pack-Very close to the 60's Ludwig-$100 less than DW

vyacheslav thanks for the heads up. I just ordered the pack with the bag from my local dealer.
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