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Old 10-18-2009, 02:19 PM
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Default Re: The Band - King Harvest 1970, That's a cool old kit!

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When you look at the picture of Levon's kit in the UK shot... with windows and the amp it just looks like a really good match.
Yes, but they show an outside shot of the house in the opening scene, and its not the same one shown in the UK. Also, this was filmed in 1970, not 1969 like the link shows.
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:42 PM
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It looks to me like Levon had the wooden hoops on that Tom cut down like maybe a half inch or so. That would make an old marching snare look a little more modern and he may have cut the size of the shell down while he was at it. I don't know, but if so it could have been a vintage drum, right?
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Old 11-04-2009, 01:18 AM
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I read in Levon's autobiography that he found his wood-hoop kit at a pawn shop in LA just before they started recording their self-titled album in early 1969. I'd always assumed it was a very old kit.

On the other hand, Ludwig-dude says Levon ordered the kit new from Ludwig. Perhaps he bought the old kit at a pawn shop and then ordered a new, similar kit from Ludwig? I'd guess a newer kit would have been more road-worthy, so maybe he bought a newer replica to take on tour.
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Old 11-04-2009, 06:11 PM
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Just for clarification, I mentioned the possible trimming of the hoops because the original marching snare height of the hoop can change the angle that you use to hit the head when playing. Coming from your snare to the tom (old marching snare) could be uncomfortable with tall hoops IMHO.

Levon is cool!
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Old 11-04-2009, 10:49 PM
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Just for clarification, I mentioned the possible trimming of the hoops because the original marching snare height of the hoop can change the angle that you use to hit the head when playing. Coming from your snare to the tom (old marching snare) could be uncomfortable with tall hoops IMHO.

Levon is cool!
Well....the snare was an old wood hoop Ludwig & Ludwig, or possibly a Leedy, hard to tell in the pics, and those hoops were rather tall as well....I'm pretty sure he played them as-is.
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Old 11-05-2009, 02:52 PM
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Well....the snare was an old wood hoop Ludwig & Ludwig, or possibly a Leedy, hard to tell in the pics, and those hoops were rather tall as well....I'm pretty sure he played them as-is.
Ludwig-dude,

When I saw your post I had to laugh at myself! It is so ingrained in me that using an old marching snare as an up tom (itís a good way to get a thin shelled tom tom cheap...similar size to toms), that I didnít even consider a regular snare was what Levon could be using. I imagine you are exactly right. Iím still chuckling at my ďDuh!Ē moment.

Thanks L-D
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:44 PM
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the snare drum crack on king harvest is killer. i saw levon
play on that kit a few times. the band was the original roots
rock band. they would make a fortune on the jam band
scene today. the skill sets of these guys were incredible!
i know a few of the fellas in levon's band.these dudes can
really lay it down. groove you out the door and really
deal on the solos too.
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Old 11-20-2010, 12:39 PM
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http://video.pbs.org/video/1618751533/

http://theband.hiof.no/articles/the_big_beat_lh.html

Kind'a neat...
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Old 11-20-2010, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: The Band - King Harvest 1970, That's a cool old kit!

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Actually those drums weren't vintage at the time. They were Ludwigs that Levon has ordered from Ludwig like that. Watch the Last Waltz again, he uses this kit in the two studio scenes with Emmilou Harris and also with the Staples. They were contemporary drums.....basically the lower end marching drums at the time converted to kit use.

I'm thinking of searching out a few of those old lower end marching drums with the wood hoops to replicate this kit.....
I just re-watched the Last Waltz, and you're right, L-D: the drums in the studio scenes were new. But I'm pretty sure those were a different kit from the one seen in this video. As far as I know, the kit in this video was his old pawn shop kit, and then some time before the Last Waltz he ordered a new set from Ludwig.

Either way, the bottom line is that there's some truly great drumming here.
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Old 11-20-2010, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: The Band - King Harvest 1970, That's a cool old kit!

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I just re-watched the Last Waltz, and you're right, L-D: the drums in the studio scenes were new. But I'm pretty sure those were a different kit from the one seen in this video. As far as I know, the kit in this video was his old pawn shop kit, and then some time before the Last Waltz he ordered a new set from Ludwig.

Either way, the bottom line is that there's some truly great drumming here.
Yes they are two different kits. The one from the Last Waltz was the new one he ordered. The one in this video is the one he bought at the pawn shop.
 

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