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Old 02-13-2020, 12:24 PM
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Table of Time
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
played steady/ even/

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Old 02-13-2020, 01:38 PM
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Dear Johnny,
May I suggest you get Tommy Igoe's Groove Essentials book I.
Begin to work on the 'World Beats' section (which includes mostly latin styles)
it will open and change your world. These various beats are difficult to master
and will take time (if not years) to incorporate into your playing. Another suggestion
would be to work on the rock beats section (which you already have mastered) but
concentrating on the sight reading of a chart provided for each beat. You will be amazed with yourself.

Nick
That's great advice, I'll look into it. My problem is really just a matter of not having much spare time, I take care of my grandson most of the week and my wife is disabled, needless to say, she needs a lot of attention. I'm lucky if I can muster a few hours a week at the rehearsal room.
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Old 02-13-2020, 01:52 PM
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I think you play very good but I do understand the desire to be better and have the ability to play solos effortlessly like many pro touring (or even local) drummers do. I also get that changing your setup or configuration a little can be inspiring and fun, when I switch kits I feel like a great drummer (but I am not) for some reason. Some great advice here, I had a thread like this on DFO once and I was amazed how many people responded with all kind of advice. Well, I took the advice that sounded the best and used it, now I do feel much improvement. I think just talking to and watching other drummers can really help me.
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Old 02-13-2020, 02:15 PM
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That's great advice, I'll look into it. My problem is really just a matter of not having much spare time, I take care of my grandson most of the week and my wife is disabled, needless to say, she needs a lot of attention. I'm lucky if I can muster a few hours a week at the rehearsal room.
Oh, I understand now.
He has a version of this book that comes with a DVD.
Each beat is thoroughly analyzed in the video.
You could study at home. A good part of learning is watching
and listening.
if not that then like one of the other members stated, sit at a practice
pad an hour a day working on hand development, namely rudiments or
stick control book.
One more thought...
Playing an instrument, is a lot like being a golfer. No matter how
good you are, your never satisfied. There is no cure, but continuing to
develop !
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Old 02-13-2020, 03:33 PM
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I find certain rudiments or licks more useful/fun than others.


1 - hertas
2 - blushdas (a herta with a flam and a double stroke)

3 - 6-stroke roll
4 - inverted doubles (hands, plus hands and feet - Cindy does it at the 4:00 mark in the clip you posted)



All of the above I discovered by watching youtube clips, improved my soloing/fills by a giant leap. Also slowing down the playback and deciphering certain early Phil Collins fills. If you watch much TV, sticks and a pillow while you watch. HTH
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Old 02-13-2020, 03:49 PM
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Dear Johnny,
May I suggest you get Tommy Igoe's Groove Essentials book I.
Begin to work on the 'World Beats' section (which includes mostly latin styles)
it will open and change your world. These various beats are difficult to master
and will take time (if not years) to incorporate into your playing. Another suggestion
would be to work on the rock beats section (which you already have mastered) but
concentrating on the sight reading of a chart provided for each beat. You will be amazed with yourself.

Nick
Just ordered it!

And wow, it gets rave reviews from everyone. Yeah, I'm excited, Igoe can play.
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Old 02-13-2020, 04:02 PM
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There are SO many great drummers nowadays that people become particular about them. They're like really well trained fighters. They may not all be world champions, but they can still kick most peoples' assets...yes, I know I typed assets.

I love having access to a lot of great drumming advice on YouTube...even if I'm not actively gigging anymore...lots of cool tricks to learn and amazing talent to watch...Things like beat displacements and unreal left-hand stuff...playing left foot patterns between cowbell and hi hat pedals...playing with loops....live looping....

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Old 02-13-2020, 05:44 PM
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Don't listen to DrumBob's advice, it's ****ty. Just remember, no rules, so when you're playing the steering wheel or kitchen stove or empty box and water bottle,....if you can do it there, you will be able to put it on a kit later.
Oh, really? What's wrong with telling the man to play to his strengths? I think your rebuke is equally sh****, pal, and way out of line.
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Old 02-13-2020, 07:06 PM
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Ok guys, I didn't start this thread to cause tension, I took no offense to what DrumBob said, everyone has their opinion, it's all good.
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Old 02-13-2020, 09:52 PM
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It's OK, JR. That guy is now on my permanent ignore list.

Have you considered getting with a good teacher and working on the things you mentioned to help you achieve your goals? It may be hard to do that. I know it would be for me, after all this time, and it would be hard to find the time to practice. In any event, I wish you good luck.
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