Rogers Re-Wrap

[johnnyringo]

I've re-wrapped several kits, not too difficult, it's more of a pain removing all the hardware. I'm not thinking about re-wrapping to try to sell, only to have a kit in a glitter finish.

[O-Lugs]

Rogers always had the best blue glitter finish, imo. It just seems to compliment the look of the hardware or something. The only finish I like better on a Rogers kit is piano black.

[marko52]

jr, I certainly wouldn't sell them for $500 if they were mine. I vote for gold glass glitter.........marko

[K.O.]

Originally Posted by idrum4fun

As to a glass glitter wrap, I would not go with Silver, as it just is not "silvery" any more...unless the batch has changed. It has been more of a ginger-aled tone for many years now. Not sure why they can't get it to be silver, like the sparkle finish!

Gold looks great, but my vote would also be for green. A very stunning finish!

-Mark

I'd agree with that. The modern "silver" glass glitter is more like white glass glitter. The old stuff was actually silver but the new stuff, at least the stuff I have on one of my drums, is more white. I'm not sure why but my guess is that back in the day the glass shards inside were made from silvered glass and today they use regular clear glass. If you smash clear glass and grind it into almost a powder it looks white. This doesn't matter on the colored glitters because you are looking at it through a tinted layer (like a gel on a stage light) to give it color but the "silver" is seen though a clear layer. This isn't an issue with silver sparkle wrap because the reflective bits inside are aluminum (instead of crushed glass) which is already silver.


I haven't seen a recent sample so maybe this has been addressed somehow by Delmar but if you're considering Silver Glass Glitter check out a sample first to see if it matches what you want. Not really an issue under stage lights but if you set it next to a vintage silver Rogers it might not match too well.

[johnnyringo]

I'm also thinking of removing the wrap and working with the bare wood. Has anyone tried this with a Rogers shell? Maybe have them professionally painted.

[Powertone]

I am very partial to the silver, gold and green glass that Rogers used in the 60’s. Sorry, didn’t mean to neglect red as that is one of my favorites and I hope to acquire a red sparkle kit.

A couple of comments... I have seen the modern green, gold and silver glass compared side by side with original 60’s era Rogers.

The modern gold glass is pretty much dead on compared to the original. The silver glass is also very close. Silver is very difficult to photograph as it will pick up any light type in the room, often making it look like it has a different tint than it does. I have a modern wrapped snare in silver glass and when seen with original ‘64 Rogers kit, it is close.

I think the one color that doesn’t capture the same shade as 60’s colors is green. I have seen rewrapped drums next to my original unfaded green sparkle kit, and it isn’t even close. Just doesn’t approach that rich green of the 60’s.

All that being said, the one thing the modern glass finishes can’t capture is the original orange peel texture of the 60’s Rogers glass wraps.

[K.O.]

Originally Posted by Powertone

Silver is very difficult to photograph as it will pick up any light type in the room, often making it look like it has a different tint than it does. I have a modern wrapped snare in silver glass and when seen with original ‘64 Rogers kit, it is indistinguishable.

They must have changed the way they make it because the drum I have in modern silver glass glitter is not anywhere close to the same silvery color of my original 60's drums. I'm talking about Gretsch drums though so maybe Rogers were different. There were multiple suppliers of drum wrap back then (which is why there were two different types of sparkle wraps, some used metal particles and some used crushed glass as their sparkle medium ) so maybe Rogers were different, although I believe the ones I've seen have been pretty silver.

[Mike T]

Originally Posted by Drum Doug

May I suggest that you take a step back, take a deep breath, and rethink your decision. Your post history suggests that you like changing kits on a regular basis. I would guess that no matter what wrap you use and how the project turns out you will soon be looking to make another change .... but then you will have a lot more skin (money) in the game with a rewrapped kit to boot. My 2 cents suggests that you be a little patient, reduce the price if required, sell the kit, and move on. Respectfully - Drum Doug

I look at this in a different light if he sells that kits as is then it most likley will get stripped and all the parts scattered to the wind . It is a shame what has become of the rogers drums left out there mostly stripped for parts , but if he rewraps them in a good color they become a players kit and will stay together and be played which is what they are intended to do..... rewrap them....

[leedybdp]

Originally Posted by johnnyringo

I'm also thinking of removing the wrap and working with the bare wood. Has anyone tried this with a Rogers shell? Maybe have them professionally painted.

This must be the 20th time--maybe more than 20--that I have weighed in with my opinion on this matter. A stripped, sanded, clear lacquered drum set whether stained or not will always look like a stripped, sanded, lacquered drum set. The outer plies on the wrapped shells were not of "finish quality". This was also true for wrapped Rogers drum shells. I have seen some stripped shells from top of the line Rogers drums that look as ugly as the under side of a piece of plywood used for a sub floor in a building. If you were considering stripping the shells, I would suggest that they be sanded, low areas filled, and sprayed with several coats of dark colored lacquer and clear coat.

[woody1953]

There is something timeless and classic about silver glass glitter.