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Old 06-30-2010, 01:17 PM
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It gets really hot during the summer here in the SoCal desert so we're cooped up inside the house most of the day....one's mind starts to wonder. This morning mine wondered to this question; why is it called a snare Strainer instead of a snare Tensioner, and why is it a snare Throw-off and not a snare Release? Strainer and Throw-off are perfectly good terms, but Strainer sounds like something my wife uses in the kitchen and Throw-off conjures up the vision of a rather extreme motion. Tensioner and Release seem simpler and more descriptive. Any historical info out there on who first started using Strainer and Throw-off? I know, that's just the way it is...get used to it. OK, I'll keep my mind busy by surfing ebay and garage sale ads.
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Old 06-30-2010, 08:27 PM
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All I can think of on this is, Musicians have a different mind set than logical people. Artistic or flamboyant or something. Interesting topic anyway!


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It gets really hot during the summer here in the SoCal desert so we're cooped up inside the house most of the day....one's mind starts to wonder. This morning mine wondered to this question; why is it called a snare Strainer instead of a snare Tensioner, and why is it a snare Throw-off and not a snare Release? Strainer and Throw-off are perfectly good terms, but Strainer sounds like something my wife uses in the kitchen and Throw-off conjures up the vision of a rather extreme motion. Tensioner and Release seem simpler and more descriptive. Any historical info out there on who first started using Strainer and Throw-off? I know, that's just the way it is...get used to it. OK, I'll keep my mind busy by surfing ebay and garage sale ads.
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Old 10-21-2010, 07:32 AM
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I dont care who you are. there is allways something that one can learn from this sit. and this why i like VDF
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Old 10-21-2010, 08:34 AM
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it dosent matter at what level of drum collecting a persons at. there's allways something new to learn from VDF. this is why VDF is my favorite site.
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Old 02-21-2011, 12:30 AM
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DUCO Two Tone Paint ( Dooh - Koh)
Maybe today, as a colloquialism, but originally if the spelling is the same it referred to the coloured lacquer used, it could be solid black..two toned finishes like Slingerlands’s blue and silver (called by the company in its catalogs "antique") had different company designations
Again I have seen two toned finishes called duco and technically they are still correct as they used the coloured lacquer
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Old 02-21-2011, 12:33 AM
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It gets really hot during the summer here in the SoCal desert so we're cooped up inside the house most of the day....one's mind starts to wonder. This morning mine wondered to this question; why is it called a snare Strainer instead of a snare Tensioner, and why is it a snare Throw-off and not a snare Release? Strainer and Throw-off are perfectly good terms, but Strainer sounds like something my wife uses in the kitchen and Throw-off conjures up the vision of a rather extreme motion. Tensioner and Release seem simpler and more descriptive. Any historical info out there on who first started using Strainer and Throw-off? I know, that's just the way it is...get used to it. OK, I'll keep my mind busy by surfing ebay and garage sale ads.
the tensioner had little holes to run individual loops of gut,wire silk rope etc. much like your wifes colander
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Old 02-23-2011, 10:59 PM
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"Restored". Guys will take apart a drum, clean and detail it, and say they "Restored it". No, that's "Cleaned and detailed it". "Restored" is more like: buy a stripped bass drum shell off Ebay, round up the 10 missing claws and rods, legs, badge, and then rewrap it. It's very satisfiying to detail out a kit, but can we use some more realistic terminology here?
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Old 02-24-2011, 09:30 AM
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re·store   /rɪˈstɔr, -ˈstoʊr/ Show Spelled
[ri-stawr, -stohr] Show IPA

–verb (used with object), -stored, -stor·ing.
1. to bring back into existence, use, or the like; reestablish: to restore order.
2. to bring back to a former, original, or normal condition, as a building, statue, or painting. 3. to bring back to a state of health, soundness, or vigor.
4. to put back to a former place, or to a former position, rank, etc.: to restore the king to his throne.
5. to give back; make return or restitution of (anything taken away or lost).
6. to reproduce or reconstruct (an ancient building, extinct animal, etc.) in the original state.

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"Restored". Guys will take apart a drum, clean and detail it, and say they "Restored it". No, that's "Cleaned and detailed it". "Restored" is more like: buy a stripped bass drum shell off Ebay, round up the 10 missing claws and rods, legs, badge, and then rewrap it. It's very satisfiying to detail out a kit, but can we use some more realistic terminology here?
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1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
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Old 02-24-2011, 09:37 AM
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Example:
I found this old drum kit a guy had piled in his garage. It had a lot of missing parts and needed a few repairs. Taking it all apart and replacing any missing parts with original parts, cleaning everything and reassembling it. It does not have to be down to the bare shell to call it a restoration. I restore cars for a living. Some very old cars still have good original paint but need a lot of other stuff to get it back in nice running order, and the interior...Then theres the ones that have a frame off restoration, which includes refinishing every minute detail on the car. These are worth much more if it still has the original engine, transmission etc..... Rewraped drums arent worth near as much as oriiginal wrapped drums.
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1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl
1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite
1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD"
1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD"
1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle
60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl
2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle
24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals
Don't tell my wife!
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Old 02-24-2011, 08:58 PM
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I also have restored many cars. I also know that a rewrapped drum is worth about half as much as an original , but sometimes a drum is that far gone. Guys, sorry that I'm splitting hairs, here. Call it detailed or restored, tomatoe or tomotto. The important thing is that you enjoy making them look their best
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